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Police release footage after officers shoot 13-year-old boy [The boy'a mother had told the police that he had a gun, and that he had threatened to shoot someone]
yahoo.com ^ | September 21, 2020 | Sophia Eppolito and Lindsay Whitehurst

Posted on 09/23/2020 9:11:28 AM PDT by grundle

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — A 13-year-old Utah boy with autism was shot by police after his mother asked for help getting him hospital mental-health treatment and officers agreed to talk with him, police footage released Monday showed.

The videos show Salt Lake City officers chasing him down an alley after they arrive at his home, then yelling at him to get on the ground. The boy collapses after a series of shots ring out, moaning, “I don’t feel good. I don’t feel good.” He survived but suffered broken bones and pierced organs, the family's attorney has said.

His mother, Golda Barton, had warned police that her son said earlier that day, Sept. 4, that he had a gun and had threatened to shoot her male coworker and break windows in the house, the video showed. But she told officers she thought it was a BB gun or pellet gun. There were no indications he was armed.

She wanted him to be hospitalized for help with his mental health issues.

Officers said they would have to proceed as though the boy did have access to a real gun, the videos show. Barton told officers the boy was “triggered” by seeing police.

“He sees the badge and he automatically thinks you are going to kill him or he has to defend himself in some way,” she said. “He freaks out.”

The video was made public under a Salt Lake City ordinance requiring the release of video from police shootings within 10 business days.

The shooting has raised new questions about how police deal with people with mental health issues amid nationwide calls for police reform. It came hours before new deescalation tactics were due to take effect for Salt Lake City police, which is also cooperating with an independent investigation

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1 posted on 09/23/2020 9:11:28 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Family attorney? Perhaps I’m out of touch but pretty sure I don’t have a family attorney. Maybe they meant an attorney representing the family?


2 posted on 09/23/2020 9:14:38 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: grundle

Mother decides to buy a ticket for the lawsuit lottery? Two birds with one stone? The cops take out the unwanted kid, and she gets a multi-million dollar payout? Maybe I’m too cynical.


3 posted on 09/23/2020 9:15:43 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: rktman

The very rich and the very poor share a very few things.

One is having a “family attorney.” Generally on retainer.


4 posted on 09/23/2020 9:17:49 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: Zhang Fei
Mother decides to buy a ticket for the lawsuit lottery? Two birds with one stone? The cops take out the unwanted kid, and she gets a multi-million dollar payout? Maybe I’m too cynical.

Honestly, I thought the same thing.

5 posted on 09/23/2020 9:18:05 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Mother decides to buy a ticket for the lawsuit lottery? Two birds with one stone? The cops take out the unwanted kid, and she gets a multi-million dollar payout? Maybe I’m too cynical.”

You’re dead on.


6 posted on 09/23/2020 9:18:12 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: grundle

13yr olds with guns can be just as deadly as hardened criminals ya’ know?


7 posted on 09/23/2020 9:18:38 AM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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To: grundle

Sounds like the “mother” swatted her own son.


8 posted on 09/23/2020 9:18:52 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: grundle

Reading the mother’s comments, he’s triggered by law enforcement, unintentional or not, she set him up.


9 posted on 09/23/2020 9:19:12 AM PDT by Cold Heart (Portland Voted for IT)
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To: grundle

We have to reopen our state mental hospitals.


10 posted on 09/23/2020 9:19:27 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: Zhang Fei

Maybe we’re related. I’m either cynically skeptical or skeptically cynical. Only a counselor may be able to pinpoint that. :-)


11 posted on 09/23/2020 9:21:04 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: grundle

The kid is white.

White lives don’t matter.

No one will care.


12 posted on 09/23/2020 9:21:13 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: grundle

From the article: “....But she told officers she thought it was a BB gun or pellet gun. There were no indications he was armed....”

It seems to me like police officers should not be expected to discern, in the microsecond that they are fearing for their lives, as to whether the gun someone has is lethal or not. They should be allowed to believe a gun is a gun, for the sake of protecting themselves.

JMHO


13 posted on 09/23/2020 9:21:14 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: grundle

This Mother story sounds fishy to me, could this have been a law suite set up.

If I threaten to shoot someone and my parents though I have a BB gun, my father would have taken away from me then beat me with it.

The mother then goes on to tell the police her son is trigger by Police. Leading the police believe her son could be armed and would shoot on site of a uniform.

Who taught her son to be scared of the police?


14 posted on 09/23/2020 9:22:08 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: Bullish

Unless they are, as rip van byeDUHn mentioned, ‘unarmed with a knife’ kind of teenagers.


15 posted on 09/23/2020 9:22:15 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: ryderann

“We have to reopen our state mental hospitals.”

Is there enough room for politicians?


16 posted on 09/23/2020 9:22:48 AM PDT by Pirate Ragnar
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To: Zhang Fei
Actually, they didn't "take him out" but he probably has several million dollars worth of medical expenses in front of him.

“He sees the badge and he automatically thinks you are going to kill him or he has to defend himself in some way,” she said.

Mental illness or autism? Probably a good bet.

17 posted on 09/23/2020 9:23:24 AM PDT by Fido969 (In)
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To: MeanWestTexan
The kid is white.

Bus loads of white "protesters" doing a U-turn and heading back to Portland

18 posted on 09/23/2020 9:25:39 AM PDT by llevrok (Vote while it is still legal! And often.)
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To: NEMDF
"It seems to me like police officers should not be expected to discern, in the microsecond that they are fearing for their lives, as to whether the gun someone has is lethal or not. They should be allowed to believe a gun is a gun, for the sake of protecting themselves."

True, but the mere suspicion of having a real gun isn't enough reason to shoot someone. There ought to be an actual imminent threat. What was it here?

19 posted on 09/23/2020 9:29:53 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Fido969

[Actually, they didn’t “take him out” but he probably has several million dollars worth of medical expenses in front of him. ]


She may have believed the media’s crap about cops being trigger-happy stone killers and bet that he would go out in a hail of bullets. Insurance will presumably cover the medical expenses. And, if it comes to that, indigents get free medical care. Not risk-free, but perhaps good enough to roll the dice.

Again, maybe I’m too cynical. What I’ve discovered with many news items, however, is that I’ve not been cynical enough.


20 posted on 09/23/2020 9:30:19 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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