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To: centurion316

We can disagree. But pleas are not routinely withdrawn. The whole purpose of a plea under oath is to make withdrawl difficult because there is an implication of violating the oath when made - perjury. Flynn was directly asked, under oath, if his pleas was freely given, voluntary, and not coerced (the son thing was not an issue or Flynn didn’t think/say so) and then he gave facts about his conduct that confirmed his guilt. That just doesn’t get withdrawn. And Flynn did this twice in front of 2 different judges.

Also, while the Gov indicates it would like to withdraw/dismiss the case I can almost guarantee they have not admitted to direct wrongdoing. The gov just doesn’t do that. Like all politicians they give nebulous reasons but they have not admitted a fraud on the court or a fraud on Flynn. More like, we can use our resources better or we lost a bit of confidence in our case... Just like they have never admitted doing anything wrong in the Epstein case.

See #90. Again, I’d like to believe I’m wrong or have this mapped out wrong but I’ll state again that this is not as easy as FR/Flynn believes


96 posted on 08/31/2020 1:14:42 PM PDT by Oystir
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To: Oystir

Pleas have become a political cudgel, especially within the Federal Judiciary where the conviction rate is north of 90%. If the Feds come after you, and they take you to trial, you are going to lose. It is a measure of political power, for sure, but I doubt that it serves justice. I wonder how many examples exist where a defendant has requested a withdrawal of their guilty plea and later the DOJ has requested that the entire case be dismissed. That has to be very rare.


97 posted on 08/31/2020 1:26:22 PM PDT by centurion316
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