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To: JustaCowgirl

Okay, but to say that 150k out of 160k had something else wrong with them isn’t the same as saying that those 150k would have died anyway. Some of them undoubtedly would have died anyway, but many of them probably wouldn’t have, i.e., they were getting by with their diabetes, high blood pressure, etc., and would have continued to do so without the virus.


15 posted on 08/30/2020 2:45:40 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: irishjuggler

Pardon me for saying that when a SUICIDE by hanging & an accidental GUNSHOT WOUND to the palm of the hand are listed as COVID 19-related, that makes all of the statistics QUESTIONABLE/SUSPECT..

Yours, TMN78247


23 posted on 08/30/2020 4:01:26 AM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, F'by 241836)
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To: irishjuggler

That’s correct. We simply don’t know what the reality is. I think we do know anecdotally that the COVID numbers have been inflated, probably greatly, both the number of cases and deaths.

The same is true of flu and pneumonia (that we often don’t know the degree to which that immediate condition caused death). Those conditions are frequently listed on the death certificate as the immediate cause of death, but not as the underlying cause. They are not then counted in statistics as flu or pneumonia deaths. Public health authorities don’t report them the same way as they are reporting COVID, and neither do hospitals.. Also people dying in car accidents and from gunshot wounds are never counted as flu or pneumonia deaths. Apparently that’s not true for COVID.


29 posted on 08/30/2020 5:13:28 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Politicians are a dime a dozen. Leaders are priceless.)
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To: irishjuggler

Since the average age of death is around 78, and the life expectancy is about 78, statistically, most of them would have died...it may feel good to cower in fear, but don’t psyche yourself up so you insist on generating fear as your fears should logically be a bit allayed...


35 posted on 08/30/2020 5:57:04 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: irishjuggler

What if it was the common flu instead? Would they have died from THAT because of comorbidity? Hmmmm?

LIKELY YES!

With the financial incentives and blaming EVERYTHING on COVID hysteria, no wonder the numbers are so skewed.

We were really “had” on this one! The biggest FRAUD in WORLD history!

The biggest bandwagon ever constructed and everyone wanted to get on it.

On the other hand .... we have all the ventilators we will ever (not) need.


43 posted on 08/30/2020 8:15:46 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: irishjuggler

They would have died sooner then later! They were in a weakened condition and any attack on the immune system would have killed them.


54 posted on 08/30/2020 10:41:05 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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