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The Real Problem with Saying 'All Lives Matter'
American Thinker.com ^ | August 1, 2020 | Warren Beatty

Posted on 08/01/2020 4:59:09 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Yes. Using their logic of “undervalue” I should say: “All unborn lives matter.”

I am not however, opposed to the phrase “All lives matter” when arguing against abortion as it includes the (vastly more) undervalued class of the unborn.

The difference is…I don’t have another agenda.
BLM does.
61 posted on 08/01/2020 7:10:05 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: Kaslin

The term “Pretzel Logic” comes to mind.


62 posted on 08/01/2020 7:24:31 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Kaslin
The problem with Judith Butler saying all lives matter out of one side of her mouth is what comes out the other...

Judith Butler explains, "For me, the argument in favor of a sustainable life can be made just as easily for a woman or girl who requires an abortion in order to live her life and maintain her livelihood."
63 posted on 08/01/2020 7:30:39 AM PDT by wizwor
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To: rlmorel

“Could you ping me when you post what you are writing? I would appreciate it...”


LOL. Seriously? Just for BLM, or in-general? Can’t say for sure that I’ll remember, but you can find all my comments under ‘in forum’ in my profile, as well as posted articles, etc.

I did think about pinging you in this thread...and, as expected, forgot.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3870450/posts?page=65#65

Fyi in a thread about CDC under which my original comment offended a mod and got zotted (I have multiple comments in this thread outlining my zotted thoughts).


64 posted on 08/01/2020 7:40:52 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Kaslin

If we are talking horrible victimization points, Yazidi Lives Matter.


65 posted on 08/01/2020 7:41:42 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Kaslin
why not say ALL black lives matter? That would account for the thousands killed on the streets AND in the womb.
66 posted on 08/01/2020 7:44:44 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: rlmorel

Very thoughtful and well expressed comments. Thanks for your insights.


67 posted on 08/01/2020 8:01:07 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: logi_cal869

LOL, of course...I understand. That is pretty much an impossible task on FR, and I should know that...:)

I will find a way to keep tabs on your post when it appears...


68 posted on 08/01/2020 8:04:46 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: Kaslin

Pretzel logic at work.


69 posted on 08/01/2020 8:37:07 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: rlmorel

my problem is the mind control aspect.

they control your thoughts by controlling your language. You’re not allowed to say something so obvious and plain spoken as “ALL LIVES MATTER”. because only BLACK lives matter is acceptable speech. Try put an ALL LIVES MATTER sign in your yard and they’ll spray paint a black ring around your house and burn it down.

it’s no longer the america that i’m accustom to.


70 posted on 08/01/2020 9:03:17 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (Democrats are not the enemy, Republicans are not your friends. We're on our own folks!)
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To: Kid Shelleen
why not say SOME black lives matter?

That would be more accurate

71 posted on 08/01/2020 11:25:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rockrr

LOL, Rockrr! :-)

Based on what I’ve seen of Kaslin’s posting history, I /sincerely/ doubt Kaslin is *advocating* this; rather he’s bringing an article to our attention. In some cases, it is helpful to know about the latest falsehoods in order to both expose them and prepare one’s mind on how best to refute them.


72 posted on 08/01/2020 11:54:07 AM PDT by mbj
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To: dp0622

Actually, Pedophiles do matter, though.

6 ¶ For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

God is not willing that any should perish; therefore ALL lives matter. And repentance must be possible, even for the vile -

9 ¶ Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

But God’s longsuffering is not forever and will not excuse the ungodly after they scorn His goodness -

9 ¶ The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 ¶ Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

Saying that ALL lives matter, doesn’t mean that - just because they matter - that there won’t be an everlasting consequence for abusing any part of all God has given us in this life.

1 ¶ And he said also unto his disciples, There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods.
2 And he called him, and said unto him, How is it that I hear this of thee? give an account of thy stewardship; for thou mayest be no longer steward.
...keep reading past verse 12
12 And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man’s, who shall give you that which is your own?

;-)


73 posted on 08/01/2020 12:05:52 PM PDT by mbj
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To: Jolla

Just to give more context to your post, I hope you aren’t saying that we completely shouldn’t care about 99 just persons:

He says there would be *more* joy over one sinner that repents - not that the ninety nine just persons weren’t precious and valuable - not that there is *no* joy from good men. Do you think God doesn’t value goodness?

5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

...now back to the original reference:

6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, *more* than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance. (Emphasis added, but all the words are from the original text)

And why would he say this, if repentance is the one thing that is most valuable?

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

5 ¶ And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

Why on earth would one give diligence to something that’s worth very little and that costs so very much?


74 posted on 08/01/2020 12:16:05 PM PDT by mbj
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To: 21twelve

Yes, that’s exactly what they mean and that’s a very good reply. :-)


75 posted on 08/01/2020 12:18:45 PM PDT by mbj
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Yup! :-)


76 posted on 08/01/2020 12:19:55 PM PDT by mbj
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To: bert

Yes, a handful of black lives really *do* matter. If only our nation would learn from this and completely reject this racist ideology, go back to the dream that all would “color blind”, become unified and wise up - then maybe I could see the loss of material goods and arson as being worthwhile.

But I am in a cold fury over the blinding of federal officers trying to do their job, and over the others maimed and hurt for enforcing the law!

As you say, the interviews have demonstrated that the people behind this have no real respect for history and as you point out, it is a LYING ideology. And it is being used as a cover for covetousness and theft, and to thoughtlessly destroy good things that many have worked hard to build up.

And it is being used to paint the entire USA as being out-of-control, in an attempt to malign the current administration; in an attempt to improperly negatively influence our election process.


77 posted on 08/01/2020 12:31:24 PM PDT by mbj
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To: Brookhaven

Truth: thank you!!!


78 posted on 08/01/2020 12:32:20 PM PDT by mbj
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To: logi_cal869

LOL :-)

Well, to play devil’s advocate (a very difficult role for me to play!), they will probably answer that slavery somehow is the basis for the misery in their lives today.

I think that’s the falsehood we need to attack: historical slavery is not the reason for remaining in poverty.

Also, poverty in the USA is NOT THE SAME as poverty conditions in say, Bangladesh. Not everyone in the world has a electricity and running water in their house, never mind drinkable running water.

But it is hard to become filthy rich honestly, (which is what this movement seems to see as their rightful due - so they feel justified to act dishonestly instead), especially if one starts at the very bottom.

Nevertheless, in some places there do seem to be cases of isolated discrimination, and we need to oppose cases where a manager hires and favors solely people from their own ethnic background - let’s just pick any ethnic group at random and pretend it’s Vietnamese or Indians.

I have personally seen cases where people are discriminated against in the job market due to their being of older age. Any injustice lends a vestige of unfairness that is being exploited. I can totally understand the feelings of resentment, and despair.

But yeah, you’ve hit the nail on the head: These racist blacks just want black lives to matter “more”, for example to the tune of “reparations”.

What can we do about it? What can we do about the real feelings of injustice in some cases?


79 posted on 08/01/2020 1:01:09 PM PDT by mbj
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To: rlmorel
The fundamental word in that message is hates, the viciousness of its meaning demonstrated by the broken windshield wipers. Leftists are consumed with hatred. Their messages are all about hate. Hate characterised everything they stand for and attempt to do.

And note tagline.

80 posted on 08/01/2020 1:05:34 PM PDT by Savage Beast (President Trump, loving God, America, and the American People, is on the Side of love the Angels!)
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