> I know a lot of them - union labor - welders, carpenters in PA. <
Me too. Trust me on this. Not only do I know a lot of them, I once was one of them. I worked for five years in a union steel mill. Then the mills went down and I changed careers.
And here’s the thing that bothers me. Most of those guys went for Trump in 2016 for one reason. Trump promised them that he’d bring industry back to the region. Those guys didn’t like Hillary. But the return of industry was number one on the list.
I even remember one Democrat mayor going on the radio back then and saying he was going to vote for Trump. A Democrat mayor! That was amazing. It was all about those promised jobs.
I don’t know what it’s like elsewhere, but those industrial jobs never came back to my region. And I don’t see the Trump enthusiasm now that I saw in 2016. Maybe I’m just hang out with the wrong guys.
Anyway, Trump might win here in 2020 because of law-and-order concerns. But the Donald can’t afford any missteps. And that “question” about moving the Election Day was misstep. I think it will hurt him. I hope I’m wrong.
Oh, and one more thing. Among the older blue-collars guys I know, Biden is a hero. They didn’t like Hillary. But they love Biden. They see him as some sort of blue-collar champion. That’s very wrong, of course.
You’re not the only person who has great reservations about Trump’s endless mouthing off, or his ability to win. Saw many of your opinion on earlier thread. We’re not all EverTrumpers here! LOL
I guess it depends where you are
The union guys I know still like Trump and they know none of this is his fault - they felt betrayed by the Democrats and that has not changed.
I don’t know what is going to happen - but being weak and pandering is the last thing anyone wants from Trump - people like the way he speaks his mind.
I know what you mean about the older guys - but they didn’t vote for Trump anyway