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Posted on 07/17/2020 10:05:05 AM PDT by CedarDave
One comment this morning said there are reports of reflashes, "but that is normal for a shipboard fire where things are far from ventilated and cooled down."
Complete incompetence of U.S. Navy
Heads will roll.
Love your tag line - mine’s asleep under my desk here at work (101° here in Oil Patch City today)
“We do not know the extent of the damage. It is too early to make any predictions or promises of what the future of the ship will be.”
Freepmail me... i think I have a good take on that.
LOL...mine is too. Literally!
Well, no need for an investigation then. You have taken very spotty and limited information and reached the predetermined conclusion. Rig a yardarm on the remains of the mast and start launching the guilty into eternity beginning with the Captain. Bravo Zulu.
My old boxer is lounging on his bed behind me.
I read that the ships fire went out of control because the Halon fire suppression system was under repair.
Halon? With no water backup system? A WAR ship that will burn uncontrollably if it runs out of a few canisters of a rare gas? Come on, this is ‘technological innovation’s run amok.
I bet it doesn’t even have bilge pumps to avoid harbor water contamination. Perhaps it has ‘water droplet levitation’ through magnetic rail guides imbedded in the pipes.
Or perhaps bilge water recirculation and recovery system with evaporator, condenser, and ph measurements..
Sometimes a big hammer is better than a fancy tech gizmo..
Repairing it for some other purpose, maybe.
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The BHR was not well suited for rapid onboard mission deployment. It had a number of safety and livability problems. Time to move along to a better design and an evolving mission.
It ain’t rocket science sport. During construction which is a high risk operation, and when the fire suppression system was offline, try had insufficient fire watch and fire response. And the hatches were wide open from stem to stern allowing fire to spread, and firefighting water to flood everywhere.
It’s pretty obvious that ship is done for. Due to incompetence.
But the crew will have a fabulous rainbow tranny wake party for her.
There were Halon systems in some parts of the ship. The wet sprinkler systems used fire pumps and sea water and were powered down.
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Contractor work required temporary ventilation that kept the bulkhead doors open, allowing the fire to quickly spread.
Scrap it for parts! Build a NEW one. The new revised, better one.
How does this compare with the Yorktown before Midway? Just asking, I would love to hear Navy comments:
Not unless you cut the noses off.
Thanks for that info.
Supposedly the engineering spaces below the water line and the fuel bunkers survived the fire, though obviously water from the fire-fighting effort made its way down to cause the list.
Unfortunately, accidents on Navy vessels in the last few years inclines one to assume the cause of this ship’s destruction is inadequate leadership. Your explanation makes a lot of sense.
BHR’s damage is much more extensive. Yorktown’s primary damage was from a single 500 lb bomb penetrating the flight deck, hangar deck and exploding between the 3rd & 4th deck near repair five. One near miss bomb had caused a external leak in a fuel tank. BUSHIP’s authorized temporary repairs to get her to sea again. Interior damaged compartments were not fully repaired, damage structural members were reinforced, damaged decks replaced with the minimum plating and structural supports. Electrical & piping was rerun through the spaces without the required supporting. The hole in the armored hangar deck was patched with a 1 inch thick plate. Hole in the flight deck was repaired with 2 x 1 inch plates of steel, with wood laid over the top. She was drydocked so the leaking fuel tank seam could be repaired. No other work was done at the time. All this in two days. Full BUSHIPs, by the book repairs, would have taken at least two weeks.
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