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To: upchuck

My prediction - we will be dealing with masks, social distancing and other nonsense for about 18 months to 2 years. Why? , because we are prolonging the pain. We need to get to herd immunity as fast and as safely as possible. There will be no vaccine. There is no vaccine for H1N1 (Spanish Flu). Yes, there is a “Flu Shot” but that doesn’t always work and I don’t think many people are going to be rushing to get a “vaccine” that hasn’t been tested for a long time as the possibility of other health issues as side-effects (stories of Autism, fatalities, paralysis which may or may not be related). You get the picture.


2 posted on 07/10/2020 1:31:21 PM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: frogjerk
My prediction - we will be dealing with masks, social distancing and other nonsense for about 18 months to 2 years. Why? , because we are prolonging the pain. We need to get to herd immunity as fast and as safely as possible.

If this T cell immunity is a real thing, then herd immunity will come sooner, IMO.

4 posted on 07/10/2020 1:36:22 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: frogjerk

This whole thing is ridiculous. Yes, people die. People die from diseases and infections. But we can’t hide away from all illnesses. Lowering the curve for everyone getting deathly sick at once was kind of a good dies when this virus was an unknown and could have been some sort of Ebola or plague.

It’s not. It’s a horrible illness though, terrible, long lasting side effects. But most recover pretty well.

Coronaviruses don’t lend themselves well to functional vaccines where the benefits outweigh the long term risks.

The best hope which I notice is NEVER MENTIONED by any health or other officials is to build the healthiest body you can starting yesterday. So that your case will be asymptomatic or mild. If you are already immune compromised, or very ill, stay isolated, but even you will eventually be exposed. So up your vitamin d and be careful with immune suppressing treatments and meds.


5 posted on 07/10/2020 1:39:53 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: frogjerk
"There will be no vaccine."

President Trump has stated otherwise multiple times. There are 5 leading candidates for a vaccine right now. I believe 3 are entering or already in phase 3 trials. President Trump has pushed the makers to manufacture the vaccines in parallel to the phase 3 trials (never been done before, high risk, high reward) so it'll be ready to go if proven safe and effective. And we only need 1 to work.

There is no vaccine for H1N1 (Spanish Flu).

Yes there is. It's part of the seasonal flu vaccine.

"there is a “Flu Shot” but that doesn’t always work"

It does work, just not always very well against the particular mutations of Influenza circulating at the time. The difficulty with Influenza is its high rate of mutation and the length of time it typically takes to produce updated vaccines (months). If we could speed up that timeline, we'd have a vastly more effective vaccine. But going more quickly would cost a lot more money.

"I don’t think many people are going to be rushing to get a “vaccine” that hasn’t been tested for a long time as the possibility of other health issues as side-effects"

If it makes it through phase 1, phase 2, and phase 3 trials, it's pretty much good to go. The chances of any widespread issues after that are slim. If people choose not to take it because they're afraid, maybe they need to consider the big picture, including all the damage SARS-CoV-2 has done to the economy. I'm not talking about the political response - such as shutdowns - I'm talking about people being afraid to go do anything in groups or in public. About people holding back all their spending because they're afraid for the future. No vacations. No travel. All the economic activity that isn't happening because there's a virus going around. A vaccine puts an end to that IF enough people get it. Or we can just let this drag on for several more years and see whose job is left.

7 posted on 07/10/2020 1:50:06 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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Check out this 17 minute video by Dr. Kelly Victory. This Doctor has her stuff together regarding the Whuflu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIGdv-TybUk


11 posted on 07/10/2020 1:57:49 PM PDT by upchuck (D.Horowitz: America did not invent slavery, America ended it. Preserve the American way of life.)
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To: frogjerk

There is NO vaccine for H1N1, SARS, HIV, MERS, Fauci s a useless POS!!


19 posted on 07/10/2020 2:28:23 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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