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Reports: Angry Recriminations Within Trumpworld Over Tulsa Rally Flop
Townhall ^ | 06/23/2020 | Guy Benson

Posted on 06/23/2020 8:47:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

I hate weasel words.

The door counter had 12,000+ while the “estimate” by the Fire Marshal had the number at 6,000.

“Unnamed sources” is another pet peeve. We know the Trump administration is riddled with traitors. Take anything second hand with a huge grain of salt.

I went to the Trump Rally in Rio Rancho. It was full with an overflow crowd outside. At about 8:00pm there was a weather service severe thunderstorm alert. Many of the attendees had driven hours to attend and had stood outside in the New Mexico heat all day. Probably about 10% of the attendees left early to get ahead of the incoming storm. I saw presstitudes go running into the stands to take photos of empty seats. I said at the time that they are going to claim it was poorly attended. I was right.

The narrative has been set...Trump can’t fill up venues.


61 posted on 06/23/2020 9:36:32 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: SeekAndFind

Come on! Anybody that believed that 1M ticket thing was stupid and delusional. He had what about 6000-8000 people in the arena? that’s more than Gropin’ Joe has had show up for any of his events since he signed up as a candidate. It’s probably more than he gets on-line during his time events.

Reportedly Trump’s rally had a million+ on-line followers.


62 posted on 06/23/2020 9:41:02 AM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank God the famous “conservative” Guy Benson had the sense to add the last MOST IMPORTANT SENTENCE to this drivel, which I did not read, because I’m tired of the Guy Bensons using big words to say nothing.


63 posted on 06/23/2020 9:43:28 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Do you feel that YOU have learned anything from this, Buckeye?


64 posted on 06/23/2020 9:44:52 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: grey_whiskers

If President Trump EVER puts Rove on his team...I will not vote at all.


65 posted on 06/23/2020 9:46:28 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: SeekAndFind

NONSENSE!!!

Total BULLSHIRT!

The rally was a YUGE success! (in person and ONLINE/TV)

Don’t be fooled by this CRAP!

The only thing they should be mad about is the stealing of tickets by the left.


66 posted on 06/23/2020 9:51:27 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: jjotto

Totally sabotaged. I’ve seen lots of videos and comments from people that were there with every intention of getting in but were blocked from entry by blm protesters. In an effort to quell any potential violence the police closed all but one entrance. Disgraceful!


67 posted on 06/23/2020 9:52:23 AM PDT by just Grace
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To: Ann Archy

The Tulsa mayor, a RINO, didn’t help. He did an executive order on a curfew, which he cancelled the next day after people had to move, said he would not be at the rally, temp takers told to leave so people outside were turned away. There is another thing: many reliable resources say there was actually 10,000 to 12000. I also believed the protestors could have been blocked further away.


68 posted on 06/23/2020 9:53:02 AM PDT by Osagegirl
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump needs to stick to the speech and stop the long stories. The Boeing one was painfully long and unnecessary. A 2 hour speech is an hour too long. His message got lost with the focus on drinking water and walking down ramps.

He should be challenging Biden, put him on the defensive. Biden is in his basement getting a free pass. Why come out when no one is demanding it?


69 posted on 06/23/2020 10:08:02 AM PDT by ZagFan
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To: frogjerk
I thought you might enjoy this article too:

Five Quick Things: The Facts of Life Are Conservative, Even After Tulsa

1. The sabotaging of Trump’s rally also destroys the argument for mail-in balloting.

By now we don’t have to get too far into this. The president’s campaign is taking it on the chin since Saturday over the fact they touted some million people who had entered Eventbrite ticket requests for his rally in Tulsa, but something on the order of 7,000 people actually showed up.

This has been described as a disaster, though it’s not exactly clear why. Other than a few leftist protests here and there, including one promoting black trans people in Brooklyn, drawing 7,000 people to a political event in this COVID-19 era is a monumental feat. Certainly one that couldn’t be duplicated by Joe Biden, who refuses to leave his basement for anything associated with a public speaking engagement — largely, assuredly, for fear that a scant few people would actually show up.

But Trump’s rally was designated a major disappointment and a disaster, despite the fact it drew nearly eight million television viewers on broadcast and cable TV and another four million on streaming platforms, making it the gold standard for 2020 presidential election speeches and quite possibly the single most important political event of the first six months of 2020.

Nevertheless, the media narrative is a failure because of the million Eventbrite signups, some 300,000 came from Democrats aiming to sabotage the event. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claimed credit for “teens on Tik Tok” signing up fraudulently for Trump Tulsa tickets, while other Democrat activists bragged about the number of Eventbrite signups they were able to spam their way into soaking up.

Nobody on the Left, in their triumphal reveals, bothered to pay attention to the fact that what they’d done in taking credit for sandbagging Trump’s event was to bolster the argument against their No. 1 procedural issue of the 2020 election cycle — namely, the promotion of mail-in balloting.

To hear the Democrats talk about it, mail-in balloting is the most important solution to the COVID-19 pandemic, because it’s too dangerous for people to be together at a polling location. That is, of course, ridiculous — there have been lots of election dates across the country that have necessitated in-person balloting, and scant evidence those have led to incidences of the Wuhan virus spreading out of control.

The argument against wholesale mail-in balloting is simple and obvious; namely, it’s a bad idea to put big-city post offices in charge of ballot security when there are so many dishonest and corrupt partisan slimeballs out there who would tamper with elections.

Half the Democrat Party scoffed at that contention, while the other half proved its validity by tampering with Trump’s rally numbers in order to create the narrative that the most-watched political event of the 2020 cycle so far was a fizzle.

Sorry, folks. That’s an unmitigated #FAIL. Do better next time.

70 posted on 06/23/2020 10:12:18 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Buckeye McFrog

There where thousands out side that couldn’t get in. They where still being screened while the event started


71 posted on 06/23/2020 10:20:20 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Afterguard
He had what about 6000-8000 people in the arena?

No, if you watched it, you would know that it had way more than 12,000 in the arena.

I watched some right side broadcasting during the say, and there were more than 30,000 people out side in line by 1:00 PM.

The people were directed away and scared away and turned away.

I don't believe that the President is pissed at Brad Parscale.

He was not working at the gates.

72 posted on 06/23/2020 10:20:58 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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To: jeffc

Benson should know better.

It’s a hit piece. The objective here is to run Pascale out of the campaign by sowing discourse between him and Ivanka and Jared.

Pascale is a genius. If Trump falls for this, it’s because Ivanka and Jared fell for this prank.

I’m sure they had tens of thousands of tickets. You just don’t give out tickets you have to send them to a cell phone or an email.

Again, does not add up.


73 posted on 06/23/2020 10:24:22 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: SeekAndFind

The only named source denies the animosity. I’ll wait, thx.


74 posted on 06/23/2020 10:26:50 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: ZagFan
Trump needs to stick to the speech and stop the long stories. The Boeing one was painfully long and unnecessary. A 2 hour speech is an hour too long. His message got lost with the focus on drinking water and walking down ramps.

Who are you to tell the President how to do what got him elected?

If you get bored after an hour, go to bed and what is a FagZan?

75 posted on 06/23/2020 10:29:08 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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To: SeekAndFind
So drama queens aside, he rocked the event and millions watched. He'll win if he keeps that up.
76 posted on 06/23/2020 10:30:16 AM PDT by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

BS

That rally turned out amazing for the challenges it had.

they say some 11 million watched online and TV but, I watched with 3 others on my phone and we spent two hours laughing.

I was going to call for donations and entry into free trip and photo op with the president but, decided I just wasn’t into the BS and watched for 2 hours laughing my azz off


77 posted on 06/23/2020 10:34:13 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: KavMan; Buckeye McFrog; dfwgator; JudyinCanada
We registered early in week but decided not to go due to 1) possibility of a long wait outside in the Tulsa heat; 2) threat of violence; 3) China flu concerns; 4) where to park?

At 1:30 we biked downtown and saw people had already gotten in and neither entrance had a line. I then planned to get back by 4:00 and figured I could get right in. My wife didn’t want to risk China flu with a new grandchild due soon. Then I had an odd bike spill and didn’t go after all.

As far as I know, this was the largest stadium event in the entire country since March. THAT ALONE is a positive story.

I wonder how the capacity of the BOK Center compares with other rallies. When Trump spoke at the Mabee Center Jan 20, 2016 capacity was about 8,000, I think. I had to wait in the cold over an hour, making me think this one would be a much longer wait.

78 posted on 06/23/2020 10:43:29 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: USS Alaska

I love Trump! I’ve seen better speeches though.
Who likes a 2HOUR speech? No one! The crowd was sitting on its hands through the long stories—not a good image. When the 1 1/2 hr. mark came I was pleading for him to end it. Plus, I don’t recall the crowd chanting “4 more years”, which says s lot. The best part was the last 10 minutes, but by then the crowd was too tired to really get going. The only thing I remember about this speech is the slippery ramp and him bringing up Parkinson’s! A gift to Joe in his basement.


79 posted on 06/23/2020 10:45:47 AM PDT by ZagFan
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I agree. It was kind of a flop and not just for the empty seats. Trump basically says the same things at every rally, and the sidetrack about saluting and the slippery ramp was just goofy. Ed Rollins said as much on Lou Dobbs’ show. He said the Trump campaign is floundering somewhat, and he was critical of Parscale.


80 posted on 06/23/2020 11:13:36 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ("Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy." - Franz Kafka)
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