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To: oldenuff35

I disagree with the “Floyd was murdered” narrative.
A lifetime violent criminal, violently resisting arrest. Such person has only themselves to blame for the consequences.

(What interests me is that Floyd apparently tried to change his ways but failed.)

but otherwise agree.


18 posted on 06/18/2020 12:15:41 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith
I disagree with the “Floyd was murdered” narrative.

I agree with you. I've read a lot of credible legal analysis that says he was within the (democrat created) rule book, especially if Floyd had resisted and was further showing signs of excited delirium - for which the neck restraint is allowed by Minneapolis. Further, how dumb are you to commit murder when you know you're on camera. Maybe he's that dumb.

There's not even evidence yet that he killed him. To get to 'murder' you need evidence that his knee had enough weight to cause or contribute significantly to the death, and further that he intended it. At best I think you might get a negligent/contributory/manslaughter-ish type of thing and perhaps a justified opinion that Chauvin is a dick.

But I can imagine a scenario where they felt the excited delirium meant they needed to restrain, that the knee was not doing health-harm (no bruises), it's by the book in that jurisdiction, and the ambulance had been called. So Chauvin will say 'I was using an approved technique to protect him and us.'

It's just too hard for me, at least from what I've seen and read so far, to believe Chauvin intended to kill a guy WHILE BEING VIDEOED. it doesn't add up. He looked like a guy (maybe a dick) intent on his job, however uncaring he may have been or seemed. I'm not arguing he's a nice guy, I'm not even arguing he's innocent ... I'm arguing ... there are enough legal questions around this, and enough facts out, to not yet call this murder legally, and maybe not even in spirit.

It doesn't surprise me to see anyone on this site find the video pretty damn disturbing ... but it does surprise me to read people talking about it like it's a done deal murder. Wouldn't want those people on my jury if it ever comes to it. I want people who wait to see the evidence and the full story as opposed to a not totally complete video and what is 98% fake media analysis plus a mob plus huge financial and political interests as usual using black people to further their not-really-interested-in-the-black-community agenda.

Lame! Not murder YET. And if I had 1000$ and God told be I had to put odds on a conviction of manslaughter or whatever they're calling negligent killing in that county ... I'd have a tough time betting they get it out of a jury that adds it all up. I'd say ... maybe 60/40 they get that ... but only because the jury will be swayed by the gravity of it.

34 posted on 06/18/2020 1:07:08 AM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: mrsmith
I still want to know more about the claim the cop & Floyd worked security at the same club.

Nothing about that situation looks good for the cop(s) in my view.

50 posted on 06/18/2020 1:56:23 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Vote Giant Meteor in 2020)
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