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A Sad Day For Democracy: Tomorrow Could Be The End Of Hong Kong As We Know It
Hotair ^ | 05/21/2020 | John Sexton

Posted on 05/21/2020 8:16:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Tai_Chung

You are right but GB didn’t have the stones to do it.


161 posted on 05/25/2020 7:19:45 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: mrsmith
After the power slips away, some youth in Asia making room for the next generation of slaves, quickly takes their place, China is collapsing. I wonder how many countries emerge from its remains. Let's all be shocked when it happens.

High tech and a disgusting ancient civilization mixed together in a oligarchic fascist regime, who complects Confusedism and Marxism all with the tone of an underlying racial superiority by some of the most genetically unflattering of human specimens in the world.

The ugly,stupid and smelly are playing with gasoline and matches telling each other how wise they are - I wonder what happens next.

Nobody needs China - the world did just fine without them - it'll take about 5 years and nobody will miss them.

This can all be summed up in an unrelated piece of ancient chinese wisdom - Man who live in paper house barbecues outside

162 posted on 05/25/2020 7:31:55 AM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
They won't take Taiwan - I thought initially they would but the whole wuhan pandemic has exposed their leadership as cowards. They execute plans the way cowards would.

They make a play for Taiwan they can do that once and they military which is not battle tested and super overconfident is going to get their ass handed to them

Further after this sickness China has inflict upon the people of the world the retribution will be horrific.

China is in a very bad spot IMHO - watch them do something dumber then not clamp down on the virus. They are desperate, overextended and stupid

When our economy roars back to life(I hope) the reckoning will result in their economy tanking and we will have extricated ours from depending on theirs.

Then we step on their head as they drown

163 posted on 05/25/2020 7:40:01 AM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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To: Tai_Chung

How excellent would that have been?


164 posted on 05/25/2020 7:42:01 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: ducttape45

I assume for the same reason England handed their country over to Islam: England is run by insane people.


165 posted on 05/25/2020 9:18:09 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: House Atreides
I really feel sorry for the Hong Kong citizens; many of them will end up losing everything. They deserve better.

You realize that many of those Hong Kong residents were English citizens that England would not let leave right?

166 posted on 05/25/2020 7:02:15 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Leaning Right
All I’m saying is that the UK has no special right to criticize China over Hong Kong. I hope that makes some sense.

You need to lean a little more and maybe it would make more sense. The people of Hong Kong legally were English Citizens, that England refused to let leave, or did you know that?

167 posted on 05/25/2020 7:26:12 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Leaning Right
The UK could hold Hong Kong proper only as long as it had the strength to do so.

That is the rule for everyone, including us and our second amendment as well as he first belong to us as long as we can defend them, no longer.

168 posted on 05/25/2020 7:36:46 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Jane Long
0bama gave them the kitchen sink

Partner, so true and somehow our CEO's and Board of Directors of companies in the U.S. do not even have a clue on how these Chicom Design Institutes work for the Chicoms, period and no one else.

This is how they can get all the information, dwgs. and everything else from the U.S.

They have their heads up their posteriors is all I can say is really true with our CEO's.

We can see how the ChiComs have come up so quickly with advanced designs of sea based Air Craft Carriers and jets that are truly designed to hurt folks.

Look at Hong Kong and the Hong Kong Chinese will move out of Hong Kong.

169 posted on 05/25/2020 7:55:27 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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To: Jim Noble
If you think Donald Trump or any US President would go to war with China over Taiwan you are out of your mind.

If Harry Truman hadn't stopped Mac and Chang they would have defeated the commies that we put in power when we and the UN forced Chang out.

170 posted on 05/25/2020 8:03:45 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Imagine for 2 seconds what would happen to the US economy if everything we rely on China to produce for us suddenly just stopped. How many things CAN you even buy today that aren’t at least made in part in China?

Maybe you should consider how the people reacted to WW II. We moved from a depression to the top manufacturer in the world in less than 4 years. We out produced everyone and even had surplus for England and Russia. We could do it again. Read some of Charlie Daniels comments and YouTube Comments and learn what a Patriot really is.

171 posted on 05/25/2020 8:27:50 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: itsahoot

That’s 80 years ago. We’re a very different country now with a very different culture and very different people. Also, at the time we were reacting to a massive, sudden, worldwide event taking place and to America herself being attacked. I don’t believe we have that kind of can-do spirit readily available to tap into today. Particularly the youth tend to want everything handed to them on a silver platter and they only want to “work” doing what they want, when they want, how they want. You think a bunch of telecommuting coders are going to roll out en masse to do hard factory work each and every day for a fraction of their salary?

I believe our path to self-sufficiency lies in gearing up largely automated factories that produce the things we need here at home. And I believe tariffs on Chinese goods and tax incentives for manufacturing here at home are how we get there. And even with an aggressive push, I think it’ll take us at least a decade or two to get there.

But I also think it’s 100% worth it to not be stuck in bed with China. They’re liars, cheats, and thieves, and they’re selling us garbage at cheaper prices because it’s produced by slaves living in a communist hell.


172 posted on 05/25/2020 8:38:37 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: Jim Noble

“If you think Donald Trump or any US President would go to war with China over Taiwan you are out of your mind.”

We have a Mutual Defense Treaty with Taiwan. We are obligated to go to war if Taiwan is attacked.

Why do you think we send our Carriers and Fleets into the area and into the Taiwan Strait?


173 posted on 05/26/2020 2:26:04 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: rbmillerjr
Why do you think we send our Carriers and Fleets into the area and into the Taiwan Strait?

To pretend.

174 posted on 05/26/2020 4:02:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: rbmillerjr
We have a Mutual Defense Treaty with Taiwan. We are obligated to go to war if Taiwan is attacked.

And, not for nothing, neither of those statements are true.

The US-ROC Mutual Defense Treaty was terminated by the United States 40 years ago.

175 posted on 05/26/2020 4:08:03 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ChiComs have been planning this all along. And if they ever get their hands on Taiwan they will destroy it too.


176 posted on 05/26/2020 6:10:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight neiyour way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Jim Noble

The Taiwan Relations Act


177 posted on 05/26/2020 7:31:09 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: All

Correct - there is no formal “obligation” to defend Taiwan.

Nixon and Kissinger were pretty sure we’d have open access to Chinese markets and were prepared to sell out Taiwan.

However, the language in the TRA 1979 is seen as strategically ambiguous, but the bottom line is near obligatory as you are going to get.

“The act further stipulates that the United States will “consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States”.

Diplomatically, “grave concern” is used as a use of force option.


178 posted on 05/26/2020 8:10:19 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: rbmillerjr

The Taiwan Relations Act is not a treaty, and it does not promise defense.

You know as well as I do that a mutual defense treaty with Taiwan, if one were signed, could not be ratified by this or any conceivable Senate.


179 posted on 05/26/2020 8:30:28 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: itsahoot

They were never U.K. citizens. They were British subjects.


180 posted on 05/26/2020 8:32:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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