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Sailors on sidelined carrier get virus for second time
Associated Press ^ | May 15th, 2020 | By LOLITA C. BALDOR

Posted on 05/15/2020 12:33:38 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: Mariner
"There must be something wrong with these tests."

Not necessarily. If they are not doing a test for antibodies, but only for the presence of Covid, they don't know if the sailors developed antibodies or not. BUT...there are a huge number of unknowns about this bug.

41 posted on 05/15/2020 1:59:55 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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To: mewzilla

Not in this case, where they were already known to be sick.

The presumption is that the two negative tests were false negatives. Nobody actually thinks they “got the virus again” — there’s nobody on the ship to GIVE It to them again, and they are not interacting with others.

I don’t know why we don’t have a blood test for this. They are doing nasal passage swabs, which is probably good for a quick check when you are GETTING INFECTED, but probably not when you are getting over it. It’s going to be buried inside, not sitting around in your nose.


42 posted on 05/15/2020 2:00:14 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mount Athos

There is that one poor girl who has been sick for 2 months, and still tests positive. I feel bad for her, although her symptoms are minor.


43 posted on 05/15/2020 2:01:38 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: lepton
"A negative test has not yet been demonstrated to mean the disease is fully out of their system, especially if they had a mild or as as-of-yet asymptomatic case. ...and only waiting a day to try again doesn’t cut it."

Actually, there is. The company my wife works for uses a test that checks for TWO antibodies, TgG and IgM. If you have IgM and not IgG, it means you MAY still have the virus, and they do a test for Covid to check. If the Covid is positive, back into quarantine you go. If you have IgG and NOT IgM, it means you are "really" over it, and can come back to work.

44 posted on 05/15/2020 2:04:45 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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To: Valpal1

All 5 “relapsed” sailors became ill with moderate ILI symptoms, which triggered the retests that found all 5 positive. It seems something else is going on here. It’s possible their CV19 infection made them susceptible to some weak virus that would normally not give you symptoms at all, or the person performing the “negative” swabs sucked at their job. It’s not as easy as it looks, and you have to have no sympathy for the patient that might cause you to “go easy” on them.


45 posted on 05/15/2020 2:06:22 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: rolling_stone

they say guam is good but hell is better...
= = = = = = = = = = = =

Tropical paradise...a girl behind every PINE tree.

Was it Guam that was overrun with rats so they imported snakes then became overrun with snakes??
Or Gooney Birds???

Or was that Wake Island? two paradises the USN
frequented...

So confusing, I am getting a feel for how Joe Biden acts...HA HA


46 posted on 05/15/2020 2:09:18 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: Mariner

The tests can’t always distinguish between live Coronavirus cells and dead ones.


47 posted on 05/15/2020 2:13:51 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: mylife

Hilarious


48 posted on 05/15/2020 2:18:44 PM PDT by microgeek42
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To: Savage Rider

Eh you know?

Seems the doctors don’t know...fact set keeps evolving...But then this is not necessarily a naturally occurring virus...not sure old rules apply...asymptomatic transmission, conjunctivitis, loss of taste and smell, sore toes, Kawasaki syndrome in kids, kidney issues, lung scaring, etc...


49 posted on 05/15/2020 2:30:18 PM PDT by Freedom56v2
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To: ETCM

Had they been asymptomatic after the first positive test? Was the first test a false positive? Were they also tested for influenza A and B. Was their blood sampled and cultured for live virus?

See all the holes in this article. What scientific steps were undertaken to prove the veracity of the claim of re-infection or reactivation?

Unlike the SK study where all these questions were explored to definitively find out if such a thing was possible. The answer was human error and fallible testing. The virus is not different from others in its classification. It is not a horror film virus that magically resuscitates itself.


50 posted on 05/15/2020 2:43:39 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Mariner
There must be something wrong with these tests.

PCR is not a test of cure.

51 posted on 05/15/2020 2:46:33 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
That’s my thoughts exactly. Poor accuracy on the tests.

The test is very accurate. It just can't do what they are asking it to do.

52 posted on 05/15/2020 2:47:36 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: Mariner

Are they dropping dead or is it just the flu?


53 posted on 05/15/2020 3:17:48 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Savage Rider

“I’m not a doctor but I do know you can’t get the same strain of a virus a second time in that short of a time frame”

If the virus is knocked out by something other than your immune system, before your immune system can develop anitbodies, then you can get it again as soon as the knock out agent is removed.


54 posted on 05/15/2020 3:21:35 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Mariner

There is and there is a lot wrong with the liars that are reporting this.


55 posted on 05/15/2020 3:30:43 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: treetopsandroofs

the test that has been in use has a false positive rate of 30%. But this is not the headlines that were desired.


56 posted on 05/15/2020 3:33:00 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: Mariner

More Junk Science, right on schedule!

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/05/14/coronavirus-takes-on-the-permanence-of-climate-change/


57 posted on 05/15/2020 4:53:26 PM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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To: xrmusn

snakes came in on us govt ships i think . they are trying to kill them with tylenol

hawaii imported mongooses and they are overrun now


58 posted on 05/15/2020 5:05:33 PM PDT by rolling_stone (tshf)
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To: rolling_stone

I ‘forgot’ to ‘remember’ Wake Island, another paradise


59 posted on 05/15/2020 6:18:28 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: xrmusn

midway wake guam japan hawaii philippines okinawa been there done that


60 posted on 05/15/2020 8:24:07 PM PDT by rolling_stone (tshf)
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