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Fauci to Rand Paul: 'I've never made myself out' as the only voice on the pandemic
TheHill ^ | 05/12/20 12:21 PM EDT | BY NATHANIEL WEIXEL

Posted on 05/12/2020 11:35:33 AM PDT by RandFan

Anthony Fauci bluntly told Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Tuesday that he has never put himself up as the definitive authority on the coronavirus pandemic.

"I have never made myself out to be the end all and only voice in this. I'm a scientist, a physician and a public health official. I give advice according to the best scientific evidence," Fauci, the director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said during a Senate hearing about the coronavirus pandemic.

Fauci pushed back on Paul's comments that scientists should "have a little bit of humility" because they do not know what's best for the economy.

"As much as I respect you, Dr. Fauci, I don't think you're the end all. I don't think you're the one person that gets to make a decision," Paul said. "We can listen to your advice, but there are people on the other side saying there's not going to be a surge, that we can safely reopen the economy, and the facts will bear this out."

Fauci responded that he doesn't give economic advice.

"I don't give advice about anything other than public health," Fauci said.

Paul, an ophthalmologist, predicted that there won't be a surge in positive cases and deaths in states that are currently reopening their economies.

Paul said he thinks public health officials who model diseases should own up to being wrong if there's no surge, "because I think that's what's going to happen. In rural states we never really reached any sort of pandemic levels in Kentucky and other states."

Paul also suggested that children should go back to school in the fall because he thinks they are at low risk for catching COVID-19 and have such low levels of mortality.

Fauci responded, noting that humility is saying there's a lot people don't know about the virus, especially about its effects on children.

"We really better be very careful, particularly when it comes to children, because the more and more we learn, we're seeing things the virus can do that we didn't see from the studies in China or in Europe," Fauci said.

"You're right, in the numbers that children, in general, do much much better than adults and the elderly, and particularly those with underlying conditions, but I am very careful and hopefully humble that I don't know everything about this disease, and that's why I'm very reserved in making broad predictions," Fauci said


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: anthonyfauci; coronavirus; disingenuous; fauci; ky; rand; randpaul
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To: RandFan

Rand Paul is far more of a real doctor than Fauci.
When is the last time Fauci actually saw a real patient?


61 posted on 05/12/2020 12:28:57 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You got it—just drown him out with other medical voices. Fauci is not the only doctor in town. Trump made a mistake by putting too much emphasis on Fauci.


62 posted on 05/12/2020 12:31:22 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Why are they called globalists? Because they want the whole world!)
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To: RandFan

Yeah Fauci, there’s also Bill Gates.


63 posted on 05/12/2020 12:32:19 PM PDT by Old Yeller (The answer to 1984 is 1776)
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To: SmokingJoe

Probably about 40 years ago (not kidding!) he’s been in DC for 30 years!

He’s swamp.


64 posted on 05/12/2020 12:32:53 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: conservative98

Just like the Hollywood elite—kissy, kissy all the time. Yechh! So phony.


65 posted on 05/12/2020 12:34:57 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Why are they called globalists? Because they want the whole world!)
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To: IrishBrigade

If Trump loses it will be about the Democrats going all out to STEAL the White House.


66 posted on 05/12/2020 12:38:27 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Why are they called globalists? Because they want the whole world!)
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To: Pox

Fauci is a bureaucrat as much as a “doctor” or “scientist.”

I don’t think we will replace one bureaucrat with bureaucratic advice focused on stopping deaths with another who will recommend a wholesale reopening of the country deaths be damned.

I don’t disagree that he appears to be friendly with people on the left, but he lives in a pretty liberal world and his peer associates are in the WHO, the UN, and government bureaucracies here in the US. Not exactly a bastion of “right thinking.”

I reflexively do not really like him. I think he has been wrong about many things since this first began. However, if I am honest, I have to admit that MANY of his peers were wrong from the beginning, the media wildly politicized all of this, political partisans have made him an “either or figure” through no fault of his own. In the end, we will never know who was wrong and who was right.

There is nothing the man could say or do that would not upset half the country seemingly. In the end, it is likely that most of the country will not like him and each of us will have our own opinion about him.

That is how I see it and I have certainly voiced my disagreements with our approach to this virus. I think we should continue to shelter and protect the elderly and vulnerable with utmost effort. However, it is time for the rest of us to return to work as we have little to fear.


67 posted on 05/12/2020 12:38:27 PM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: QualityMan

Shame on you for speaking ill of a holy man.


68 posted on 05/12/2020 12:42:59 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Why are they called globalists? Because they want the whole world!)
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To: volunbeer

Fauci is a IY

Ihttps://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/how-to-beat-the-intellectual-yet-idiot/

https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577#.6ot3305bl

Plus a doctors view of the world ...is we must save every life...or save as many as we can...

The CDC runs the country now..


69 posted on 05/12/2020 12:42:59 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
The CDC runs the country now..

When Dr. Birx thinks they don't even know how to count bodies.


70 posted on 05/12/2020 12:45:58 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: SmokingJoe

Rand Paul has actually been treating COVID patients since recovering himself.

Fauci has done nothing but go on TV and flap his gums.


71 posted on 05/12/2020 12:47:18 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: FreedomForce

Kawasaki disease occurs when children have fevers and the parents give them aspirin. I wonder if that is what happened?


72 posted on 05/12/2020 12:47:39 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Why are they called globalists? Because they want the whole world!)
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To: RandFan

He said he didn’t give economic advice but two weeks ago he was saying Georgia was making a mistake by opening up.

President Trump said the same thing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3837920/posts

73 posted on 05/12/2020 12:48:07 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: RandFan

Great post - here’s more

“Fauxi” - an example of what happens when you combine politics with healthcare - you get politics

-Fauxi’s 15 deadly mistakes and contra

-Fauxi and Birx used fraudulent Imperial College model to urge shut down 

https://liberalsarenuts.com/2020/05/07/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-used-imperial-college-model-now-confirmed-as-a-complete-fraud-to-persuade-president-trump-to-lock-down-entire-us-economy

https://judithcurry.com/2020/03/25/covid-19-updated-data-implies-that-uk-modelling-hugely-overestimates-the-expected-death-rates-from-infection

-Modeler had to resign in disgrace

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace/

-Fauxi later reverses and says we can’t rely on models

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/04/03/fauci-we-cant-really-rely-on-models/ ;  
   

-Fauxi has numerous conflicts of interest

https://nationalfile.com/president-trump-vs-bill-gates-on-treatment-fauci-has-a-100-million-conflict-of-interest

https://newswithviews.com/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-have-a-record-of-medical-failure/

-Fauxi has long history of fraud

http://www.americanfreedomunion.com/dr-faucis-long-criminal-history/

-Fauxi fired researcher that exposed his vaccines were spreading chronic diseases

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/sweet-innocent-dr-fauci-assistant-doctor-fired-jailed-2011-warning-vaccines-giving-americans-known-chronic-diseases/

-Fauxi is Hillary loyalist

https://conservativedailypost.com/fauci-fraud-face-of-coronavirus-task-force-exposed-in-hillary-loving-deep-state-act
/

-Fauxi promised AIDS Vaccine and has yet to deliver

https://newswithviews.com/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-have-a-record-of-medical-failure/

    

-Scarf Queen falsified data on HIV research

https://truepundit.com/dod-leak-feds-investigated-birx-fabricated-falsified-hiv-aids-vaccine-trials/

- Fauxi knew hydroxyxhloroquine could both cure and prevent corona viruses in 2005.  Passive aggressive on HCQ in 2020.  Intentional?

https://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2020/04/27/fauci-knew-about-hcq-in-2005-nobody-needed-to-die

-”Fauxi” praised use of hydroxychloroquine in 2013 to treat the MERS corona virus.  Silent in 2020.  Part of “Plandemic” ?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/wow-dr-fauci-cheered-hydroxychloroquine-success-treating-mers-coronavirus-2013-today-skeptical-weird/

 

-Fauxi funded research grants to Wuhan lab to fund virus research that was illegal in the U.S. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html

   

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/paid-for-the-damn-virus-thats-killing-us-giuliani-rips-fauci-over-grants-to-wuhan-laboratory

https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/04/breaking-kennedy-exposes-dr-faucis-role-in-creating-highly-infectious-mutant-strain-of-coronavirus/ ;

https://conservativedailypost.com/evidence-fauci-funded-virus-gain-of-function-study-making-transmission-to-humans-possible/

-Fauxi in 2017: President Trump Will Be Challenged By a “Surprise Global Disease Outbreak”.  What did he know?

https://www.healio.com/infectious-disease/emerging-diseases/news/online/%7B85a3f9c0-ed0a-4be8-9ca2-8854b2be7d13%7D/fauci-no-doubt-trump-will-face-surprise-infectious-disease-outbreak

     

-Despite his 2017 prediction, Fauxi unprepared for 2020 pandemic.  By design?

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2020/04/02/america-unprepared-coronavirus-pandemic-what-do-about-covid-19/5109482002/

    

-In Jan 2020 interview, he said,  “... this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.” - intentional? 

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/03/flashback-fauci-coronavirus-us-threat-trump/

-Fauxi caught on video flip flopping on severity of the virus

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=59a0uGIFZGY

-Fauxi said masks do not work.       

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/preventing-coronavirus-facemask-60-minutes-2020-03-08/

-Fauxi in February said malls, gyms and movie theaters were OK.  Make us more vulnerable?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/update-fauci-said-cruises-ok-march-9-fauci-said-malls-movies-gyms-ok-feb-29-now-wants-blame-trump-failures/

  

-Fauxi in March said Americans cruises were OK.  Catch us with guard down?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan/2020/03/09/fauci-says-cruising-is-ok-if-you-are-healthy/#6f8eb5f62d4d

     

-Fauci on CNN Easter Sunday suggested President Trump should have shut down the country in February 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/dope-dr-fauci-says-trump-shut-economy-february-democrat-impeachment-sham/

-Fauxi exaggerated need for Hospital beds

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/faucis-follies-us-coronavirus-field-hospitals-shut-without-treating-single-patient-garbage-models-used-us-experts/

-Fauxi is front man for Big Pharma, pushing expensive new drugs that require tests and trials rather than inexpensive proven cures like HCQ+zinc+zpack that have been around for decades.  More time to let the virus spread?   

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/fauci_now_is_part_of_the_problem_not_part_of_the_solution.html

-Fauxi delaying tests of vaccines and cures 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/fauci_now_is_part_of_the_problem_not_part_of_the_solution.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/four_questions_senators_should_ask_redfield_and_fauci_on_tuesday.html

-Fauxi agenda is mandated vaccines to benefit Big Pharma and Bill Gates.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/8/anthony-fauci-sets-stage-mandatory-vaccine/

-Fauxi 100% wrong with exaggerated models

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/13016-us-surgeon-general-adams-dumps-bill-gates-who-cdc-%E2%80%98predictive-contagion%E2%80%99-model/

   

-Fauxi longtime relationship with corrupt WHO director, a communist-globalist with terrorist ties, who covers for the CCP  

https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/is-w-h-o-director-tedros-a-terrorist-global-ties-to-bill-gates-clinton-foundation-dr-fauci-china-and-genocide/

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-who-head-really-outstanding-person

-Fauxi endorses Tinder hookups

https://nypost.com/2020/04/15/fauci-endorses-tinder-hookups-with-a-caveat/

-Fauxi plotted ‘Global Vaccine Action Plan’ with depopulation advocate Bill Gates, pushing panic and doubts about HCQ.  Big Pharma $$$s.   

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OlUbR7U/dr-anthony-fauci-plotted-global-vaccine-action-plan-with-bill-gates-before-pushing-covid-panic-and-doubts-about-hydroxychloroquine-treatments

- Fauxi, May 2020 told National Geographic the virus did not originate in Chinese Lab.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/

 

-Fauxi wrong again on State of Georgia reopening

             

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/dr-fauci-wrong-coronavirus-cases-drop-new-lows-georgia-opens-state-lifts-lockdown-orders/

             

 

-Dr Birx now believes CDC inflating death numbers by as much as 25%.   distancing herself?

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-bombshell-report-dr-birx-believes-cdc-inflating-death-numbers-much-25/Hugs and 


74 posted on 05/12/2020 12:48:26 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Hojczyk

The CDC runs the country now..


Ultimately, Trump and the governors run the country. The doom doctors definitely have a huge influence on events right now, but that is no different than Generals in a time of war. There are many parallels and all of us are trying to make sense of the chaos through the prism of media bias and politics.

I pretty much posted what you wrote above over a month ago in expressing my frustration that Trump was not recognizing the different risks based on age and health in crafting his response. In hindsight, I am not sure I was right then or that you are right now because we are all being pulled right (or left) with the coverage.

You might be right and I will concede that, I just need more data on all of this (pun intended) before I name Fauci “the most evil SOB in the world” (paraphrased from another FReeper).


75 posted on 05/12/2020 12:48:31 PM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: volunbeer

I am anxiously awaiting the rest of my coworkers to return to the office. Being an essential and one of the few who haven’t changed their work routines over the course of this stay at home craziness is at times difficult.


76 posted on 05/12/2020 12:48:51 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: cradle of freedom

I don’t think anyone has given aspirin to a child for at least twenty years. It’s pretty well accepted now that this is a dangerous thing to do.


77 posted on 05/12/2020 12:49:42 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: wildcard_redneck

This is nothing worse than a flu.

What flu kills over 83,000 over the course of 2.5 months?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

78 posted on 05/12/2020 12:50:27 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: RandFan

For not being the “end all” on this issue, IIRC, he said “You can’t ...” many times, decreeing what POTUS, et al., are allowed to do.


79 posted on 05/12/2020 12:55:25 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Rand Paul has actually been treating COVID patients since recovering himself.
Fauci has done nothing but go on TV and flap his gum

Yup.
Fauci just can't help running his mouth off.
An attention whore if ever I saw one.

80 posted on 05/12/2020 12:56:43 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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