Former presidential advisor floats potential Hillary Clinton-Barack Obama ticket in 2020

Just The News ^ | May 3, 2020 | Alex Nitzberg

[KC_Lion]

LOL

As if the Constitution matters!

[Reno89519]

She’s lost twice. Why would she be considered?

Easy! So she can be a three-time loser!

[Jim Noble]

Obama is not "ineligible to the office".

He is >35 years old. He has lived in the US for the past fourteen years. And his natural born citizenship status has been moot since January 6, 2009.

And, just as there are no "Presidential elections" in the Constitution, there are no "tickets" either.

The election of a Vice President by the Electoral College is a separate matter from the election of a President, as specified in the Twelfth Amendment: " they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each".

[a fool in paradise]

Hilary has already been unelected co-president for two terms, their phrase not mine. And she’s indicated Bill would be the same. It’s unconstitutional

[stremba]

Additionally, while it’s never actually occurred, the cabinet members (appointed, not elected) are all in the presidential line of succession. The Secretary of State is fourth in line after the VP, the House Speaker, and the President pro tempore of the Senate, with the remaining fourteen members of the cabinet following.

[a fool in paradise]

“Chief of staff”

[Brilliant]

I agree but he’s flyspecking the actual language of the constitution and I see his point. There is some ambiguity. But not enough. It’s the intention that is most important and that is clear.

[The_Media_never_lie]

She’s lost twice. Why would she be considered?

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She is also a criminal who was not prosecuted on several instances, due to her political power. She is not capable of governing. You want a revolution? This might bring it on.

[Lurkinanloomin]

Under the natural born citizen clause he is ineligible.

[chiller]

So, as another poster suggested: Pence/Trump would be good to go in 2024.
I suspect something like this has been explored and rejected many times before....for any number of reasons.

LOL..politics...doncha’ love it.

[Lurkinanloomin]

Very well said.

[Brilliant]

That is exactly what the interpretation he’s advancing would permit.

[super7man]

Only an elected official can succeed to the Presidency

And you explain Gerald Ford how?

[BenLurkin]

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[irishjuggler]

Under the 12th amendment Obama is ineligible to be VP because of the 22nd amendment.

I used to see it that way, cut and dry. Lately, though, I've come around to the idea that it could be litigated with arguments on both sides.

12th amendment: "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

22nd amendment: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice..."

The arguments for allowing a twice-elected president (e.g., Obama, Bill Clinton, Bush 43) to run for vice-president are several. First, the "constitutionally ineligible" language in the 12th amendment could be interpreted according to what it meant that the time (i.e., the requirement set out in Article Two: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."). Second, the 22nd says that "no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice," but a former president running for VP wouldn't be seeking election as president. And if they did ascend to the office of president it wouldn't be through election but rather because the duly elected president died, resigned, etc.

Not saying that I know for sure how the SCOTUS would rule if it were litigated, but rather just that there are arguments that could be made.

[RipSawyer]

Amendment twelve says any person constitutionally ineligible without reference to election so it might wind up before the supreme court if pursued. As a layman I would GUESS that since Obama is ineligible to be ELECTED then he would be ruled constitutionally ineligible to be VP, Who knows what might actually happen though. After all, some supreme court justices appear to me never to have read any part of the constitution.

[antidemoncrat]

Could be worse. We could see a Biden /Hillary ticket and six months into that Presidency, Pelosi could declare both of them brain dead, who could argue with that, and assume the Presidency.

[Kenny Bania]

Nixon could have appointed anyone as his VP.

He could have picked anyone, but they still need to approved by both houses of Congress:

25th Amendment - Section 2: Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

[Meatspace]

Yes, Ford had to be confirmed.

[varon]

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Yo-Yo, you're my hero. Thanks for bringing clarity to the discussion.....