Posted on 04/29/2020 6:47:45 PM PDT by absalom01
And now a new study from hard-hit Italy found that those Italians on hydroxychloroquine for Lupus or Rheumatoid Arthritis did not come down with the coronavirus. Only 20 patients tested positive for COVID-19. No ICU, and NO ONE DIED!
Despite comorbidities the patients on hydroxychloroquine did not succumb to coronavirus!
Via Dr. James Todara, MD.
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
Remdesivir is approx $1000/dose (which is IV and add in the hospital admission costs) and is patented. It has no FDA approval for treatment of anything. Hydroxychloroquine is approx $.65/pill and is generic. It has been around for 60+ years and has FDA approval for several conditions, including emergency approval for covid-19 treatment.
Well, something is bringing Italy’s death rate way down, from around 850 a day a month ago to about 350 now.
“Cuomo sending kungflu to nursing homes and banning HCQ outside of hospitals and not doing the HCQ trial right, probably killed thousands.”
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Well....MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Look at all that TV time....and the possibilities for MASSIVE NY State budget bailouts!
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The Italian Society for Rheumatology studied 65,000 patients on longterm hydroxychloroquine for RA and Lupus. Only 20 patients tested positive for COVID-19. No ICU, no deaths.<<
Trump shoul publicly demand that Fauci give a technical explanation why HCQ should not be generally used against the virus. Force Fauci to comment or replace him with the Italian doctor Fauci seems to be a BigPharma spokesman and salesman.
Drinking Chianti from zinc spaghetti bowls.
so if its 1000 to .65 why is he pushing the most expensive drug?
and why isn’t trump calling him out on this
How many were actually tested in total?
The Italian Society for Rheumatology studied 65,000 patients on longterm hydroxychloroquine for RA and Lupus.
Only 20 patients tested positive for COVID-19. No ICU, no deaths.
It takes a lot of test subjects to get meaningful data on the effectiveness of a drug that is fatal in potentially as few as 1 in 1000 cases.
For me this is the first real data that I have see that could be classified as analytical and not just anecdotal. And it is REALLY GOOD NEWS. As good as any of us could have hoped for.
The doctors were right. This stuff works.
Is there any good natural sources of ionophores besides quinine water?
Quercetin
600mg twice a day, yup.
65,000
Tested.
20 cases of contracting the virus, no hospitalizations and no deaths.
Thanks.
I don’t doubt this at all.
His main source was in Italian and had 2 embedded links to interesting other medical articles embedded. I wish I could read Italian. Google translate seemed to work reasonably well, but the bulk of the article which appears to offer major insights to how Covid kills was fairly technical and I probably lost something in translation. Its short final paragraph briefly mentions that the Italian rheumatologic society surveyed 1200 of its members as to how their patients on chronic HCQ had been affected by Covid. Collectively they had 65,000 patients on it. They only could identify 20 patients who got Covid with zero deaths and zero needing ICU. GP, not the Italian article, commented that was 90% fewer cases than expected for Italy. An impressive 'observation.' If there is more detail behind that observation it's not linked.
One of embedded links lead to a 4/25 article of of S. Korea in International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents "Can post-exposure prophylaxis for COVID-19 be considered as an outbreak response strategy in long-term care hospitals?" Answer strongly appears to be yes! During the S. Korean Covid surge two infected people entered a long term care facility and were soon documented to have exposed essentially everyone. Anticipating disaster they tried to prevent it with HCQ as post-exposure prophylaxis. They put 190+ residents and 20+ staff on HCQ 400mg/d for up to 2 weeks. All had negative PCR tests at baseline. Two previously terminal patients died of old age, side effects and drop outs were trivial, and after two weeks NONE of the 211 treated patients had gotten the virus. Events took place before Trump mentioned HCQ, everyone had pre and post PCR tests and the study was done in the country the media likes to say handled the virus the best. There was no control group as all exposed were treated. But it's hard to argue with a sizable shutout!
Most interesting and the bulk of the piece was not about HCQ but rather about how Covid interacts with blood. Thanks to reading a translation I not certain how much of that was now established fact and how much was educated speculation. It seems to say the virus includes proteins which specifically attack and damage β-hemoglobin chains so hemoglobin loses iron and oxygen binding capacity. Infants aren't much affected because they mostly have alternative hemoglobins. People with β-thalassemia, a common genetic hemoglobin abnormality in Italy don't seem to be severely affected by Covid. The other embedded link was to a report summarizing 11 Covid infected β-thalassemia patients in northern Italy. Most were pretty ill before Covid, but none showed signs of respiratory failure or cytokine storm. Non-standard hemoglobin was protective. If I'm reading the translation correctly it says HCQ binds to ferriprotoporphyrin within the β-hemoglobin chains and prevents the viral proteins from binding there and doing damage. It's another proposed HCQ mechanism and one independent of zinc. In this case one that neither directly inhibits viral replication nor that is directly anti-inflammatory. If there are any lurking Freeper Docs who read Italian, ideally hematologists, I'd be fascinated by their take on the original.
Overall this offers two strong, different studies supporting early, even preventative therapy with HCQ. Many of the Italian Lupus and RA patients would have been taking the dosage S. Korea used. They show you could stay on that dose a long time. Further dosing studies should be done. If lower doses would work it would be even safer, better tolerated and cheaper.
“can someone please explain why faucci doesnt want this drug to work, and wants the gilead drug to work, must be money related”
Winner!! “Must be money related.”
EGCG (Epigallocatechin Gallate) or Quercetin
nwrep wrote:
“How many were actually tested in total?”
Could have been the 65,000, because it said only 20 out of 65,000 tested positive for the virus.
so if its 1000 to .65 why is he pushing the most expensive drug?
and why isn’t trump calling him out on this
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I believe Fauxi’s agenda is to
- Delay. He knows remdesivir is still being tested, and has no FDA approval.
- since it is IV administered, it requires an inpatient admission, this building up his numbers
- profits for his cronies in Big Pharma. A cheap treatment would be a disaster for the medical mafia.
Great info!
Thanks
I think there should be a class action suit against #bodybag Cuomo!
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