Posted on 04/24/2020 12:16:14 PM PDT by mvonfr
Right now everyone is making fun of Trump's comments about disinfecting from the inside.
What goes unnoticed is that he actually may be right.
Just like chloroquine it is a very old med, and generally forgotten -- nonprofitable. Two differences with chloroquine are: (1) it is actually known to be safe (2) it is easy to understand why it works -- it actually kills viruses.
The med is Methenamine and it goes back to 1859. Some articles call it an antibiotic -- well, if so, it is the first one! More appropriate name would be anti-infective: it kills both bacteria and viruses.
Ironically it does exactly what Trump suggested yesterday: it applies a disinfectant *internally*. While drinking glorox would not do much good against virus, Methenamine delivers a powerful disinfectant in tiny dosages exactly to where you want it : respiratory and urinary tracts. (First destination is for the virus, Second is for the main usage TODAY). The disinfectant is actually formaldehyde. Methenamine is chemically formaldehyde, wrapped into a packaging to make is safe, it breaks down upon delivery. Formaldehyde kills viruses. (And it is not something you want to drink...except in this controlled fashion).
Today, methenamine is nonprescription medication for urinary tract bacterial infections. In 1920s it was perhaps the main anti-flu medication, both as treatment and as a preventative. (I have a funny leaflet from those days somewhere...claims 100% protection against flu... well, nothing is 100% protection, anything that works helps.).
Unlike most flu meds today, it is not a symptom reliever -- it is a virus killer. Not suggesting it or anything... but this is really one medication one should look at seriously. Fairly decent chances it works.... at least by diminishing the virus load.
(Yes, it is dirt cheap and non-prescription)
Again, this is only a suggestion of something to research.
Link to med description: https://www.drugs.com/mtm/methenamine.html
It’s beyond sad that people follow him blindly as if he were some kind of Machiavellian deity. It’s way beyond sad that you believe he’s never uttered a wrong word, said something foolish, or made a mistake.
I feel badly for you that you’re so blinded.
Awesome story... it is tiring when all many people can see is essentially “what’s in the box”.
Must always think outside of the box.
And deplorable too. Remember? You might have been a deplorable teammate once before turning to the darkside.
ECP was developed as a treatment for advanced cutaneous T Cell lymphoma of the Mycosis Fungoides or Sezary Syndrome types. Treatment and the needed equipment is not widely available and is expensive. So it’s not scaleable for widespread use against Covid. For those who have access to the needed equipment and wish to try it, fine.
Perhaps the President was thinking of this type of therapy, intravenous peroxide, which is used by natural doctors:
https://centerforintegratedmed.com/bio-oxidative-therapies/hydrogen-peroxide-ivs/
Both live and in transcript h specifically said “I am not suggesting you inject your self” again, you remain the definition of dumb.
And?
NO...He told The dip from ABC, Karl, that “next you will have a headline that Trump wants to inject people with...” Because Karl asked if he, Trump was callin for injecting people with Bleach. Trump answered that no...That Karl was an idiot.
Evidently you fell for the MSM word tricks too. Listen to the whole exchange and especially when he rebukes Karl.
Evidently you fell for the MSM word tricks too. Listen to the whole exchange and especially when he rebukes Karl.
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Nope. Here is exactly what Trump said. Prior to any exchange with Karl or any other reporter.
“Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think [Dr. Deborah Birx] said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it.
And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting.
I see disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that. So you’re going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s pretty powerful.”
-— President Donald Trump
Another old remedy is Ozone.
Ozone kills and disinfects rooms, etc.
Wikipedia claims Ozone was blended into blood and piped back into some patients (Spain and Italy)
Those patients recovered good health
...is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that. So you’re going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s pretty powerful.”
-— President Donald Trump
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“...is there....” Line one of excerpt above. A question.
“...almost a cleaning...” qualified by *almost*
“it’d be interesting to check that. So you’re going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me.” *Interesting*= a speculative line of thought
“...have to use medical doctors....” obviously the speaker is not outright recommending
“...so we’ll see...” not an outright recommendation
Not a word about Lysol or bleach being injected. He asked, sincerely if sunlight penetrated the skin to any useful degree. It doesn’t, but perhaps POTUS sincerely didn’t know that.
Please read with critical thinking engaged.
I watched the video. Didn’t notice the “plain & simple” gaffe.
Perhaps you’re speaking on behalf of the “plain & simple”
Not even critical thought is required to understand the injection concept. And if this is too difficult to comprehend, then how will the vaccinations be rolled out?
Please read with critical thinking engaged.
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Care to explain why today he said he was being sarcastic? Feel free to engage those ‘critical thinking’ skills of yours.
Another link: Indications to use of Calcex It is effective at acute respiratory infections among which: flu, ORZ and other.
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viruses infect.
The quote states “effective....among which: flu...”
Infection
Invasion of an organism’s body tissues by disease-causing agents
An infection is the invasion of an organism’s body tissues by disease-causing agents, their multiplication, and the reaction of host tissues to the infectious agents and the toxins they produce. An infectious disease, also known as a transmissible disease or communicable disease, is an illness resulting from an infection.
Wikipedia
Injection without injecting:
A modern innovation derived from the old smallpox vaccine delivery with a needle array. This left the well-recognized dimpled scar. No metal needle. No forcable insertion of material through the skin with a syringe. No scar.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2904604/
Microneedle-based vaccines
Mark R. Prausnitz, John A. Mikszta, Michel Cormier, and Alexander K. Andrianov
Needles are made of sugar based substance. Vax applied to *needles*, patch taped to skin. *Needles* dissolve and vax has been delivered.
Nit pick all you like. There are more innovative techniques in medicine than pedants focused on a word or a riff can imagine.
The media and other simplistic-minded pedants wish to so bind POTUS that all he can do is stand like a robot and read from a teleprompter. And they would then dissect every pause and bit of body language.
Enough on this pearl-clutching: “OMG, POTUS looked foolish! He’ll lose now” said no Republican who isn’t invested in how the enemy sees us ever.
Most of us have reached the point of just rolling our eyes at the media. No matter what, they, like any abusive bully, will just find something else.
QED:
“Mr. President, is sarcasm appropriate at this time?”
If you are embarrassed over President Trump, that tells us all more about you than about him.
The Nazis at youtube have already pulled the video showing how healight works.
The Nazis have already scrubbed the video. Glad I got to see it though and share before they did
You’ll notice in my post that I never wrote “you”.
My point concerned infection prevention via injection — which is essentially disinfection.
Love Trump — never an embarrassment.
You’ll notice in my post that I never wrote “you”.
My point concerned infection prevention via injection — which is essentially disinfection.
Love Trump — never an embarrassment.
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“Not even critical thought is required to understand the injection concept. And if this is too difficult to comprehend, then how will the vaccinations be rolled out?”
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Right. Got it.
Glad you aren’t embarrassed and neither am I.
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