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To: SeekAndFind

I shudder to think what the numbers would have looked like had Trump not imposed the travel bans when he did. For that act alone, the nation should be forever gratful to him.


3 posted on 04/19/2020 7:16:32 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

Here is what Michael Fumento wrote on Issues and Insights ( Excerpt below )

https://issuesinsights.com/2020/04/18/after-repeated-failures-its-time-to-permanently-dump-epidemic-models/

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Since the AIDS epidemic, people have been pumping out such models with often incredible figures. For AIDS, the Public Health Service announced (without documenting) there would be 450,000 cases by the end of 1993, with 100,000 in that year alone. The media faithfully parroted it. There were 17,325 by the end of that year, with about 5,000 in 1993. SARS (2002-2003) was supposed to kill perhaps “millions,” based on analyses. It killed 744 before disappearing.

Later, avian flu strain A/H5N1, “even in the best-case scenarios” was to “cause 2 (million) to 7 million deaths” worldwide. A British professor named Neil Ferguson scaled that up to 200 million. It killed 440. This same Ferguson in 2002 had projected 50-50,000 deaths from so-called “Mad Cow Disease.” On its face, what possible good is a spread that large? (We shall return to this.) But the final toll was slightly over 200.

In the current crisis the most alarming model, nay probably the most influential in the implementation of the draconian quarantines worldwide, projected a maximum of 2.2 million American deaths and 550,000 United Kingdom deaths unless there were severe restrictions for 18 months or until a vaccine was developed. The primary author: Neil Ferguson. Right, Mad Cow/Avian Flu Fergie.

Then a funny thing happened. A mere nine days after announcing his model, Ferguson said a better number for the U.K. would be only 20,000. The equivalent would be fewer than 80,000 American deaths. Technically, that U.K. number was buried in a table in the report under what might be called “a fantastic case scenario.” But could that reduction possibly reflect a mere nine days of restrictions? No.

Soon all the numbers were tumbling. Yet as late as March 31, the New York Times declared: “White House Projects Grim Toll from Virus” citing White House Coronavirus Task Force head Deborah Birx and director of the National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases Anthony Fauci, who in turn cited a model showing deaths up to 240,000. Still awful, but Birx explicitly backed off the Ferguson projection for which she had previously been the Grey Lady’s pompom girl.

Then suddenly Fauci announced a flat figure of “more like 60,000,” the same number the CDC says died of flu two years ago. Probably not coincidentally, until quite recently the agency said there were 80,000 flu victims that year, before lowering it to 61,000 – presumably because people were using that figure to compare to COVID-19 deaths. In any event, the 1968-1969 “Hong Kong flu” killed an estimated 100,000 Americans, or 165,000 adjusted to today’s population.

Moreover, as noted, the CDC now encourages coding a death of anyone “if the circumstances are compelling” even though they haven’t been tested at all. Yeah, wow; it’s not a “conservative myth.” During flu season, that means a lot of flu victims have magically become COVID-19 victims in addition to people who would have otherwise had cause of death listed as heart attack, diabetes, and other co-morbid conditions.

One reason Italy had so many “coronavirus deaths” seems to be coding, even though it’s still far more strict than the new CDC guidelines. Re-evaluation of death certificates by the country’s National Institute of Health showed only “12% with direct causality from coronavirus, while 88% of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three.”


6 posted on 04/19/2020 7:20:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Starboard

Drink the Kool-Aid? Trump’s actions were on the basis of the hysterical recommendations of the evil duo Birx/Fauci who also support Covid Act Now. The ‘curve’ is being extended by their recommendations. It’s reckless and dangerous of unprecedented proportions.

The ‘curve’ is not about the deaths: It’s only about complications of infections, aka “hospitalizations”. The deaths were exaggerated to compel compliance via public fear/panic without martial law and, as many allege, drive an anti-Trump agenda. “Stay-at-home” only lengthens the term of the spread. Significantly.

The virus WILL KILL as many as it will kill and no intervention by humans will change that (vaccines in this respect are fantasy; some drug treatments may or may not have a significant impact).

It’s called Farr’s Law. Look it up.

https://medium.com/@davidpkirkpatrick/why-are-we-ignoring-farrs-law-of-epidemics-coronavirus-should-be-gone-by-summer-7782f3622c3a


11 posted on 04/19/2020 7:35:13 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Starboard

I think your right and the fact that it was allowed to spread more slowly as a result resulted in less panic and less death. Our excellent healthcare in this country will not be over run now and as more evidence emerges we are going to see that a large percentage of the population already had it but were not compelled by fear to rush into hospitals in the winter which would have resulted in the death that occurred elsewhere.


21 posted on 04/19/2020 8:28:17 AM PDT by BillyCuccio (MAGA)
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To: Starboard

If only President Trump had acted a couple of days sooner, we would have saved MILLIONS of lives.


24 posted on 04/19/2020 8:49:40 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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