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To: beejaa
"Their situation is quite different from that of the US."

You're right it can be discussed forever, the world will only every know one way it dealt with it (though some countries varying.) Mostly the coulda woulda shoulda is educated ... not guessing ... but incomplete deduction ... some deduction, some guess-induction.

That said, to me the overriding reality of the virus is that it does the same thing everywhere. It explodes then chills out. Sweden's CURVE says economic shut down is not the answer. I think they are running a higher death count per million but not by a hell of a lot and arguably they are just sucking up their deaths early -> i.e., slightly less flat curve, so to speak, but same volume underneath the curve when the fat lady sings.

It's time to re-open, and those who feel themselves frail or simply have less tolerance for risk - be they snowflakes, or wise, or simply biochemically different when it comes to risk tolerance -> it's time for those of us who want to go play the sport of being American again to go out onto the field. Those who want to watch from the stands are free to do so, for a short while, and those who want to stay out of the stadium are also free to do so.

Life itself is risk. Death smiles at us all. It's time for those of us who want to ... to be free to smile back.

That may sound unscientific, but I say it having reviewed the numbers in depth like many have. I think those who know the MOST about this are the LEAST afraid. And knowing about this does not require being an epidemiologist. Their models are incomplete too. YES there are unknowns about possible lasting effects after recovering. But that's frankly true every time you take a drink of booze, or go driving in your car, or start a relationship, or a job, or new hobby, or roll out of bed.

Again, as Marcus Aurelius said: Death smiles as us all. All a man can do is smile back.

The only other choice is willful ignorance or fear. Not for me, and not for most Americans.

We should go forward with our eyes open, knowing we may look back and regret a step because we didn't have the luxury of knowing everything, have some patience with and respect for the rational of the fearful but not allow them to drag us into their obsessions ... and get out there and git 'er done.

There comes a time with you know enough, not everything, but enough, that its' time to declare "F*ck it."

4 posted on 04/16/2020 5:19:28 PM PDT by tinyowl
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To: tinyowl

Trump announced the plan to open up tonight. You’ll be hearing about it, certainly by tomorrow. A state needs to meet the criteria of Stage One before moving onto Stage Two, followed then by Stage Three. He said that some states like Wyoming, North Dakota and others, are ready right now to open up. Yippie. We’re on the way.


6 posted on 04/16/2020 5:26:20 PM PDT by beejaa
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