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Want to end the quarantine? St. Louis Fed leader says universal testing is the answer
stltoday.com ^ | April 14 2020 | David Nicklaus

Posted on 04/15/2020 9:18:27 AM PDT by rintintin

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To: rintintin

The quarantine should be lifted through several steps. Begin with a disclosure on the false modeling and then announce the actual numbers from the virus. Based on infectious rates on a state by state basis begin rescinding national emergency declarations. Once the federal dollars are removed the state will be forced to open up for business.


41 posted on 04/15/2020 9:36:52 AM PDT by soupbone1
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Proving that this man is too STOOOOOPID to be entrusted with such a frightening amount of power.”

No. Proving that he knows how they’re doing it in Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore. They’re keeping their economy open by mass testing. They isolate people who test positive, and everybody else gets to live their lives and go to work.

That’s common sense public-health policy. In the US, our officially at CDC and FDA moved too slowly bureaucratically to get a broad testing system developed.


42 posted on 04/15/2020 9:36:54 AM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: rintintin; xzins

Maybe we should return to the tried and true 300 year old technology of inoculation. Just give everyone a dose strong enough to produce antibodies but not enough to bring about a full blown infection.

Yes, some will die. But eventually everyone on the planet is going to get exposed. Some will die. No matter what is done, some will die.


43 posted on 04/15/2020 9:37:06 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Hojczyk

There will be sports again...as soon as everyone is tagged and tracked.


44 posted on 04/15/2020 9:37:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: rintintin

Past tense — have (already) been infected. Ergo, 85% have not yet had the disease and have not developed any immunity. The question is how to get 2/3 of the 85% immunity before a vaccine arrives. The answer is to get everybody sick, i.e., Pox Parties.


45 posted on 04/15/2020 9:38:45 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Sirius Lee

Why? You afraid of death?


46 posted on 04/15/2020 9:38:52 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: rintintin

Thought the rationale was to flatten the infection curve to prevent saturation of the medical system. Way to move the goal posts again, Deep State.


47 posted on 04/15/2020 9:40:21 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: rintintin

Very stupid comment.


48 posted on 04/15/2020 9:40:32 AM PDT by mulligan (En bbnnEeThe tC)
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To: rintintin

This country isn’t Singapore in case you haven’t noticed.

In population, devotion to individual liberty, and about a million other ways.


49 posted on 04/15/2020 9:40:55 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: relee

So if we are negative to your test today and the virus mutates next week does your test diagnose that too or do we have to make more new millions of tests?


50 posted on 04/15/2020 9:41:14 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: rintintin

Tired of partisan, self satisfied losers telling the Country what it must do. These people only have a platform because the Press has nothing else to bash Trump with. Anyone with 1/2 a brain knows this is primo stupid, impossible & error ridden.


51 posted on 04/15/2020 9:42:22 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

85% have not yet had the disease and have not developed any immunity.”

With universal testing, they still get to go to work.

Look at how Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea do it. They keep their economy open by using mass testing to isolate ONLY people who test positive. Everybody else keeps living their lives. Ultimately, this can kill the virus, if the people who test positive are isolated for two weeks until it leaves their systems.


52 posted on 04/15/2020 9:42:26 AM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’m serious that IF we could do universal testing (which I still think is a ridiculous pipedream) the effect would be that everyone who tested negative would immediately go out and find a way to get infected so they could go back to work.

Which renders the entire concept of this lockdown moot.


53 posted on 04/15/2020 9:42:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: rintintin

If, ifs and buts were candy and nuts...

You prove the point. Testing has to be universal and fool proof and frequent. None of which is plausible in a free society. But it makes a great carrot at the end of the Prog stick.

And that would be the forever because the virus does not go away. But buying into the ZERO risk Prog agenda means any scary virus or bacteria or gum violence or obesity epidemic will merit a Corona response.


54 posted on 04/15/2020 9:43:40 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Exactly...and to go get infected, go to a “Pox Party.”


55 posted on 04/15/2020 9:45:13 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: rintintin

Pay me now or pay me later but this is the unfortunate answer. And no you don’t have to be tested. But if I own a grocery store, sports franchise, restaurant, etc. then I want to see a recent test result.

Weeks ago every press conference had CEO’s of giant company’s telling us how they were transforming to make ventilators, etc.

Well instead of sending billions and billions in stimulus checks, we spend billions making enough machines and tests so that anyone can get conveniently tested as often as necessary. All I hear is why we can’t do it. Get creative. Think outside of the box. Maybe there of thousands of nurses going street to street, house to house daily for a month as we re-open and they bring saliva samples back to a central location where machines are located.

One perspective I’d like to give is to imagine that instead of most of those dying from this virus being over 80, imagine that those dying are under 10. We would be moving Heaven and Earth to come up with a solution that wipes this virus out clean. And a massive testing testing initiative is it. We either value life as a Christian nation or we don’t.

And if Trump doesn’t do it, watch for Biden to start pushing the idea and the media to jump on board and hang every future death around Trump’s neck. I see that as the only way Trump loses in the fall. And that scares me more than anything.


56 posted on 04/15/2020 9:45:22 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Testing has to be universal and fool proof and frequent. None of which is plausible in a free society.”

Taiwan is a free society, they do mass testing and keep their economy open and people working.

In contrast, US doesn’t have mass testing and we keep our economy CLOSED and force our population to “SHELTER IN PLACE,” like World War II internment camp. That’s a “free society”? Don’t think so /


57 posted on 04/15/2020 9:46:50 AM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: bramps
But if I own a grocery store, sports franchise, restaurant, etc. then I want to see a recent test result.

Then you are destined to be a grocery store, sports franchise or restaurant owner in Chapter 7 bankruptcy.


58 posted on 04/15/2020 9:47:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

the effect would be that everyone who tested negative would immediately go out and find a way to get infected so they could go back to work.

“”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””

If you test negative why couldn’t you work?


59 posted on 04/15/2020 9:47:41 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: rintintin

The seasonal flu kills millions every year.

Is there universal testing for it?????


60 posted on 04/15/2020 9:47:59 AM PDT by Wuli
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