Posted on 03/27/2020 5:11:55 PM PDT by Meatspace
“I wonder if there will “Monday” ventilators? Personally, they are one of last companies I’d want building ventilators. Or any union facility for that matter.”
They are partnering with Ventec, a well known qualified medical ventilator manufacturer.
There is ZERO evidence that we have a shortage of ventilators.
Seasonal influenza - at its peak in January and February - had NO shortage of ventilators.
We have had a minimum of 400,000 hospitalizations for influenza in the last 5.5 months.
COVID-19 hospitalizations are no where near that number.
If COVID-19 sends 20% of victims to the hospital - and it does not - that would be 20,000 hospitalizations in the last nine weeks for COVID-19.
Trump’s order for ventilators is based on a deranged prediction that we will have hundreds of thousands of COVID-19 deaths.
She dead, I suppose. See how I answer your question? Can you answer a question?
The question was why don’t you?
This order may have been necessary — I remain unconvinced. Voluntary participation is far better. Volunteer corporations want to excel; conscripted corporations just want to avoid trouble. No command & control economy has come anywhere close to the success of free enterprise economies, in the long term. Trump’s ‘challenge’ approach is better, by far.
There can be little doubt that politics were a big factor. The MSM and other leftists hounding Trump to invoke the DPA, you’d think that his invoking it would shut them up.
Considerable, and rapid work is underway by entrepreneurs to turn CPAP machines into ventilators. Some medical facilities have been successful using a single ventilator for more than one patient, something not considered possible. Anethesia machines are also being employed as ventilators.
American ingenuity at work, not government bureaucrats.
Wow, come down off the ledge. Too much Schnapps, account highjacked?
Trump had to put Mary Barra over his knee.
Gotch! The devil is in the details and at this point I’m only half-hearted in listening as I’m getting tired of this.
I guess she has to be shown who’s the boss.
For fifteen years we have had threads about avian flu risk and such that can prompt a cytokine blast similar to Spanish Infuenza and corona. All that time the numbers of ventilators has always been viewed as where modern medicine will fall short. The time-on-ventalator is triple that for flu with the current Corona.
The voluntary aspect was breached by GM coming back with a much lower production number and higher cost.
Promised 40,000. Then 6,000 and wants $1 Billion.
He had the hammer and he decided to use it.
And presumably you have some data establishing the percentage of influenza patients who need ventilators, and how long they are on the ventilator before case resolution. Would you be so kind as to share a link with us?
Bye.
GM wanted to price gouge. Trump was having none of that.
If I recall correctly, Obama got rid of the GM CEO and replaced him with someone who thought more like him.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gm-ceo-resigns-at-obamas-behest/
Stop the disinformation campaign...
CDC estimated that an average of 114,000 people were hospitalized as a result of influenza-associated infections each year
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/faq.htm
We don’t have the whole picture yet (if ever). Agreed: ‘war’ profiteering is bad & it’s important to act. There can also be no doubt that Trump will not continue these measures for a long time. However, a sizable fraction of the Democrat party would support such command & control measures long term. That should give you pause.
Yo, silly cow. Quarantine your your mad brain.
General Motors MUST immediately open their stupidly abandoned Lordstown plant in Ohio, or some other plant, and START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!! FORD, GET GOING ON VENTILATORS, FAST!!!!!! @GeneralMotors @Ford— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 27, 2020
Re: “Stop the disinformation campaign...CDC estimated that an average of 114,000 people were hospitalized as a result of influenza-associated infections each year”
LOL!
You have a serious reading comprehension problem.
114,000 is based on “records from 1970-1995.”
Also, your CDC link has not been updated for 17 months.
My CDC link was updated yesterday.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
400,000 - 730,000 influenza hospitalizations from 01 October 2019 to 21 March 2020.
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