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Author of Ridiculous Imperial College Coronavirus Study Backtracks
GP ^ | March 26, 2020 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 03/26/2020 10:29:46 AM PDT by Hojczyk

1/ This is a remarkable turn from Neil Ferguson, who led the @imperialcollege authors who warned of 500,000 UK deaths - and who has now himself tested positive for #COVID; https://www.newscientist.com/article/2238578-uk-has-enough-intensive-care-units-for-coronavirus-expert-predicts/ …

2/ He now says both that the U.K. should have enough ICU beds and that the coronavirus will probably kill under 20,000 people in the U.K. - more than 1/2 of whom would have died by the end of the year in any case bc they were so old and sick.

3/ Essentially, what has happened is that estimates of the viruses transmissibility have increased - which implies that many more people have already gotten it than we realize - which in turn implies it is less dangerous.

4/ Ferguson now predicts that the epidemic in the U.K. will peak and subside within “two to three weeks” - last week’s paper said 18+ months of quarantine would be necessary. https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/196477/j-ideas-neil-ferguson-tells-mps-lockdown/ …

5/ One last point here: Ferguson gives the lockdown credit, which is *interesting* - the UK only began ita lockdown 2 days ago, and the theory is that lockdowns take 2 weeks or more to work.

6/ Not surprisingly, this testimony has received no attention in the US - I found it only in UK papers. Team Apocalypse is not interested.

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To: Hojczyk

Is this the same English university that came up with the famous global warming hockey stick to warn us average temp now would be 160F


21 posted on 03/26/2020 11:33:07 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: Hojczyk

“Imperial College London coronavirus model”

WOW! I want to say “This is the first I heard of this, BUT IT ISN’T.

I’ve heard about it over the past several days on “Tipping Point” with Liz Wheeler on OANN.

Liz Wheeler WAY out in front on this! Saying this DEEPLY FLAWED study/paper was relied on by our Coronavirus task force. Now she is totally validated as the author admits he is WRONG!

“Ferguson thus dropped his prediction from 500,000 dead to 20,000.”

OOPS!


22 posted on 03/26/2020 11:36:35 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Hojczyk
So what he is saying was the model that he used was flawed. So, when we relied on a science that wasn't as settled as advertised, it caused trillions of dollars worth of damage. Am I understanding this properly...?
23 posted on 03/26/2020 11:37:25 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: faucetman

“Liz Wheeler WAY out in front on this!”

She’s always way out front. Scary smart lady.


24 posted on 03/26/2020 11:38:01 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Immigrants with tuberculosis and polio are welcome, but youÂ’d better be able to prove your dog is v)
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To: Hojczyk

So the US has 75,233 (Johns Hopkins University) confirmed cases of Coronavirus, and not all of those are severe enough to require hospitalization, or a ventilator. And, some of those have died, but many more have recovered already.

It is also concentrated in just a few states. IF it were spread out equally among the states, it would be less than 1,500 ventilators per state. Some states are already reporting a “flattening of the curve” on new cases and deaths.

So why do I keep hearing that states like New York and California each need 30,000 MORE ventilators? Mulltiple other states are needing thousands more. How many do they already have? How many are they currently using?

If New York and California each get 30,000 new ventilators, they could put nearly ALL of the total currently diagnosed cases to date on ventilators and not even use their current supply -— including all the subclinical and ambulatory cases being picked up and reported on the drive through testing right now.

What am I missing?


25 posted on 03/26/2020 11:41:52 AM PDT by LTC.Ret
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To: Hojczyk

Does anyone have his revised US numbers? If I recall correctly, he had us at 2 million dead.


26 posted on 03/26/2020 11:46:56 AM PDT by Nicojones
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To: trebb
Yepper...the TP hoarders saved us all...

It's like the Indian rain dances. When there was a bad drought they'd all get together and take turns dancing continually, day and night. When the rain finally came, the wise ones nodded their heads and swore it was all down to the dancing. And who was to say it wasn't?

27 posted on 03/26/2020 11:49:13 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Nicojones
Well, if we can use the 2016 election as a benchmark, there are at least 65 million people brain dead. Hope that helps.
28 posted on 03/26/2020 11:50:04 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: exDemMom

Here’s the paper being referred to, I think. When it was released, I read it with great alarm. Not because I agreed with its conclusions and recommendations, but because our glorious leaders would embrace them, and the consequences that would follow.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

Regarding to his mea culpas afterward — haven’t seen those.


29 posted on 03/26/2020 11:51:55 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Yep - and when the virus curve flattens, even if the majority of the drastic measures didn’t really have a major role in it, “they” will tell us how they saved us...while trying to toss us into a serious depression that could cause some serious long-term damage.


30 posted on 03/26/2020 11:52:15 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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31 posted on 03/26/2020 11:53:53 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Hojczyk

Essentially, what has happened is that estimates of the viruses transmissibility have increased - which implies that many more people have already gotten it than we realize - which in turn implies it is less dangerous.”

Which was sort of obvious to people who were willing to think clearly about it.....and not panic and not wish for a crisis


32 posted on 03/26/2020 11:57:30 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: faucetman

Her reporting has been good.


33 posted on 03/26/2020 11:58:21 AM PDT by funfan
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To: exDemMom
The high transmissibility of Covid-19 does not in any way support a supposition that it is already widespread. There simply is no evidence of that. The only thing that can be said is that control measures have been successful in slowing its spread.

Close to half of US cases have been from the NYC Metropolitan area.

In NYC, people commute to work in the subway/bus system. During rush hour, people are packed together tightly, standing touching each other, breathing in what the person next to you is breathing out.

In such an environment, anything contagious will spread VERY quickly, which may explain NYC's initially high numbers.

34 posted on 03/26/2020 11:59:11 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: bigbob

You mean Emily Litella - “Never mind” (although “It’s always something, ptooooey!” also applies ... Gilda Radner played both characters.


35 posted on 03/26/2020 12:03:03 PM PDT by katana
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To: exDemMom
The only thing that can be said is that control measures have been successful in slowing its spread.

I say it's because everyone rushed out to buy TP.

I have at least as much basis for my statement as you have for yours.

36 posted on 03/26/2020 12:58:56 PM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: Robert357
I hope that the media that helped promote the panic will publicly apologize for being fear mongers.

It's been a stressful time. I'm glad we've been able to keep our sense of humor.

37 posted on 03/26/2020 1:01:55 PM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: PapaBear3625

That, and their idiot Mayor didn’t take it seriously.


38 posted on 03/26/2020 1:05:11 PM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: gogeo

I think the liar media should give us reparations...SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!


39 posted on 03/26/2020 1:08:50 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: hal ogen

That works for me.


40 posted on 03/26/2020 1:16:36 PM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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