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CBC tries to give more weight to the “experts” who question Ioannidis, but fails:

19 Mar: CBC: Prominent scientist dares to ask: Has the COVID-19 response gone too far?
Leading epidemiologists publish duelling commentaries, igniting debate on social media
by Kelly Crowe
It’s a clash of titans — an epic battle between two famous scientists over the world’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
In one corner, influential Stanford University epidemiologist John Ioannidis, who wrote a commentary asking whether taking such drastic action to combat the pandemic without evidence it will work is a “fiasco in the making.”
Across the mat, prominent Harvard epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch punched back with a defiant response titled: “We know enough now to act decisively against COVID-19.”...

Ioannidis told CBC News he worries about the consequences of those measures (lockdowns).
“Put a stall to the entire economy. Tell people to stay at their homes, get depressed, commit suicide, domestic violence. Who knows? Child abuse, children losing their education, companies crashing … unemployment, the stock market already dropping 20 per cent.
“Is that the solution?”...

The day after Ioannidis’s bombshell commentary appeared on the medical news website STAT, the site published Marc Lipsitch’s response...

Prof. Ross Upshur of the University of Toronto is a public health expert, a physician and a scholar of the ethics and history of global health emergencies...
He has corresponded with Ioannidis over the years and respects the Stanford professor’s expertise: “He is one of the most cited, most highly regarded researchers.”...
“Of course there’s a lack of data,” said Upshur. “It’s all nice to stand on the sidelines and say, ‘Hey, you know we don’t have very good data. These are not evidence-based decisions.’ Well, of course they’re not, because we don’t have the evidence.”...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/coronavirus-covid-pandemic-response-scientists-1.5502423

Lipsitch is the guy who spread the story the FakeNewsMSM reported, claiming up to 70m of the world’s adults could get infected. doubt if any MSM noted his follow-up tweet revising that figure down:

Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health: The latest on the coronavirus
March 2: Coronavirus may infect up to 70% of world’s population, expert says (CBS News)
According to Marc Lipsitch, 40% to 70% of the world’s adult population could become infected with the new coronavirus, and of those, 1% could die from COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus. (In a later tweet, Lipsitch revised his estimates downward, to 20% to 60% of adults becoming infected.)
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/the-latest-on-the-coronavirus/

in Lipsitch’s hasty response to Ioannidis on Stat News, he also admitted Ioannidis was correct - there is no good data on covid-19:

18 Mar: StatNews: We know enough now to act decisively against Covid-19. Social distancing is a good place to start
By Marc Lipsitch
(Marc Lipsitch, D.Phil., is professor of epidemiology at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and director of Harvard’s Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics)
In a recent and controversial First Opinion, epidemiologist and statistician John Ioannidis argues that we lack good data on many aspects of the Covid-19 epidemic, and seems to suggest that we should not take drastic actions to curtail the spread of the virus until the data are more certain.

He is absolutely right on the first point...
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/we-know-enough-now-to-act-decisively-against-covid-19/

Ioannidis should head the President’s covid team.


45 posted on 03/23/2020 10:45:27 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

apologies for the accidental double posting.


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