Posted on 03/17/2020 8:06:56 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
Each ship has 1000 beds. The problem is that each bed is close to the other. They were designed for war casualties, not a pandemic where there must be a distance between patients. The Navy will make adjustments to solve that problem. They’ll probably turn into 300 bed hospital ships.
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Worse, 90% are already occupied.
Where are all the stories about all the people who are recovering just fine?
This massive overreaction is going to doom us all!
It’s too early in the trajectory. China still has large numbers of unrecovered, and they are still dying even without new cases.
“53,000 Beds. Not 3000.”
3000 ICU beds 90% occupied. ICUs have the respirators that save the lives of the really sick.
High % of hospitalization? Whats up with that?
Did the testers in South Korea change hazmat suits after every test?
They didn’t use this test. Listening to the press conference now, it sounds like they may be moving to a self-swab test, which would be great.
How many of these ICU beds are occupied by traditional flu cases already? Not to mention Heart Attacks, Strokes, and other emergencies.
It’s not like they had 3000 beds waiting for COVID-19.
Fredo’s brother better start work on plan to increase ICU type facilities NOW. Sounds like it may be too late.
No one is saying it’s “just the flu” bro.
That the flu is killing more people does in fact have a meaning, but not the meaning many of them are implying. Most of the meaning there is simply that the flu has a much, much larger head start in hosts, and it gives a good idea how widespread it would be if we ignored it the same way we have done with the flu. Useful information for sure, but not so clearly comparable in determining what exactly the extent of vigilance should be.
I think we are over-reacting to some probably very significant extent, however, we don’t know the exact optimum response level, and people aren’t both responding and segregating where the problems actually are. We also had the majority of people ignoring the issue while small steps might have been sufficient and are freaking out because their reality has been pierced by hearing every consequence at once.
I understand. I’m not 15 years old.
Get factories in the ball to start cranking out ventilators.
Many of those hospitalized, now, may recover and be discharged in some amount of time.
“Oh. There’s been a bunch of them.”
I’m not seeing that. What I’m seeing is that posters are pointing out that deaths from the flu far outpace this virus EVERY YEAR and no one bats an eyelash. We’re hearing things about “potential” without much reason to accept the worst case scenario about Covid-19. Even on the cooped up cruise ship there was nothing close to full infection or super high mortality.
Somebody posted that 65 are in IC which means that of the 19% that are hospitalize (323) 3.8% (65) are in IC.
Actually, that’s slightly better so far than the early reports of 20% being serious and 5% of the whole needing ICU. The difference though is 15 people.
NY and FedGov are doing just that. Hospital ships and MASH units being activated, ThermoFisher is moving 24 hours a day to manufacture more ICU equipment. Pray for them and for us all.
I wish I was
Technically, a Coronavirus is in fact the cause of many cases of the common cold.
This one is more similar to the MERS and SARS viruses, but less fatal per case (MERS 30-35%, SARS 10-12%. FWIW, China’s numbers are currently in the 4.0-4.5% range) and much more infectious.
Here are the fatality rate by age percentages the CDC had in a chart from February, multiplied by the number of people in those age brackets in 2010. If anyone finds more up-to-date numbers they’d be appreciated. The numbers infected are an approximation if we treated this like the flu and took no other precautions (and had a vaccine).
If the infection totals were like this years estimate of the flu:
320,000,000
*10% infection rate
32,000,000
Age count CDC chart .. .. Dead
20s 37.3M *0.1% ... ... 3,500
30s 43.2M *0.2% ... ... 9,000
40s 42.5M *0.4% ... ..17,000
50s 31.1M *1.3% ... .. 40,000
60s 20.3M *3.6% ... .. 73,000
70s 16.3M *8.0% .. ...130,000
80+ 9.2M *14 % .. ....128,000
... ... ... ... ... .. 404,000
As you can see, the shift in fatalities towards the elderly is not as strong as is implied. And for working age folk in their 60s is about 60% in numbers from those in their 80s.
I still interpret that as states shouldn’t wait for the federal governments ventilators to arrive if they need them now but should source their own if they can get it until the fed supply chain is setup.
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