Posted on 03/08/2020 4:33:27 PM PDT by blam
An infectious diseases expert at the forefront of the search for a coronavirus vaccine said on Friday that it was the most “frightening disease“ he’s ever encountered, and that “war is an appropriate analogy” for what the country is facing, as “50 – 70 percent of the global population” may become infected.
Hatchett, who sat on the White House Homeland Security Council in 2005 – 2006 and was a principal author of the National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza Implementation Plan, and currently heads the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, told the UK’s Channel 4:
“This is the most frightening disease I’ve ever encountered in my career, and that includes Ebola, it includes MERS, it includes SARS. And it’s frightening because of the combination of infectiousness and a lethality that appears to be manyfold higher than flu.”
He feels this way “because of the combination of infectiousness, and a lethality that appears to be many-fold higher than the flu.“
When asked what concerns him the most about coronavirus, Hatchett said:
“I think the most concerning thing about this virus is the combination of infectiousness and the ability to cause severe disease or death. And we have not since 1918, the Spanish Flu, seen a virus that combined those two qualities in the same way. We have seen very lethal viruses. We have seen certainly, Ebola, or Nipah, or any of the other diseases that CEPI, the organisation that I run, works on – but those viruses had high mortality rates – I mean, Ebola’s mortality rate in some settings is greater than 80%. But they don’t have the infectiousness that this does. They don’t have the potential to explode and spread globally.“
Hatchett added “I don’t think it is a crazy analogy to compare this to World War II.
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Just for arguments sake, I had to exchange bodily fluids with someone to get aids. A completely 100% preventable disease.
I can get this by shaking the hand of someone showing no symptoms. I can get it by talking to someone with no symptoms
What kind of Doctorate degree do you need to understand the difference?
I heard a talk show host on the radio yesterday saying in China the boys start smoking like chimneys in their early teens and this could likely be the reason Chinese males have apparently had a worse time with this - their lungs are already compromised.
And your hospital is prepared for double the infected of a normal flu season, for ICU stays of double the duration.
You guys say your “it’s the flu” shit, but you never think it to the next step.
Are you that way with the rest of your lives? You must be surprised all the time.
More frightening than AIDS? More frightening than tuberculosis? Lyme disease? Shingles? How about syphillis? How do you spell syphillis? Other STD’s like herpes? Herpes is pretty scary. More frightening than smallpox? Anthrax?
Probably this is a good time to hype a scary pathogen if you are the head of a big governmental entity. More money and then maybe you get a raise.
[IT’S JUST THE FLU!]
Italy Lombardy region is on the brink. Retired doctors summoned, nursing students field promoted to graduation. Just under 10% of Lombardy’s #COVID19 cases need ICU. 10% of doctors/nurses have already caught #coronavirus and in quarantine. Jesus.
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1236507650424258562
Let’s trust Italy’s numbers and assume that about 10% of cases are serious enough to require hospitalization. (Keep in mind that for many patients, hospitalization lasts for weeks — in other words, turnover will be very slow as beds fill with COVID19 patients).
By this estimate, by about May 8, all open hospital beds in the US will be filled. (This says nothing, of course, about whether these beds are suitable for isolation of patients with a highly infectious virus.)
If we’re wrong by a factor of two regarding the fraction of severe cases, that only changes the timeline of bed saturation by 6 days in either direction. If 20% of cases require hospitalization, we run out of beds by ~May 2.
If only 5% of cases require it, we can make it until ~May 14. 2.5% gets us to May 20. This, of course, assumes that there is no uptick in demand for beds from other (non-COVID19) causes, which seems like a dubious assumption.
I’m no expert on this subject, but I know people and news ............. and I think this guy needs a little rest.
We have seen very lethal viruses. We have seen certainly, Ebola, or Nipah, or any of the other diseases that CEPI, the organisation that I run, works on – but those viruses had high mortality rates – Ebola’s mortality rate in some settings is greater than 80%. But they don’t have the infectiousness that this does. They don’t have the potential to explode and spread globally.”
I understand the transmission methodology “Lt” and I still will not join the club of doom
End of story
If we use the textbook formula for historical epidemics where the status of everyone presenting with symptoms has had a chance to go through the full disease process and is either recovered or dead it doesn't fit if the calculation assumes everyone currently sick will survive for the denominator,
We can get an estimate by only using everyone who has been through the full disease process for the denominator, that is to say the recovered survivors plus the fatalities.
As of 4:23 PDT, that was 3,803 dead and 60,695 recovered.
(3803/(3803+60695)*100=5.9% about what it's run every day this week.
That looks like the normal weekly squad of Mexicans blowing leaves and dust in our neighborhood. Nothing out of the ordinary!
OK, bud, one more crack out of you...
Some people hope your aunt uncle and grandpa die of coronavirus. They are actually salivating over the idea that dead bodies will be lying in the sidewalks all around the world. It will really help with global warming climate change overpopulation. And also might get Bernie Sanders elected Dictator. But there are people who want nothing more than to say they told you so about how serious this coronavirus is. They told you but you wouldn’t listen and now see what happened.
5 more new cases confirmed in my county - CONTRA COSTA. Though they did not mention names, ages or whatever.
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It looks to me like "the forces that be" will do and say anything to get rid of Donald J. Trump.
(jmo)
Second source for 10% hospitalized/serious/intubated/ventilator in Italy:
You are not going to scare me.
I am not joining this hysteria either, good God 20,000 have already died of the flu this year AND this includes children NOT the case with this virus!!!
You are a hockey fan?
I was saved at the age of 7 and have renewed my vows since, I am an ordained minister so you can stop with your sermon right there
I am in Gods hands and I do not get vaccinations and have never gotten a flu one
When I get called home I leave, but I refuse to listen to the latest Pandemic madness
So what am i to do, sit around with a bunch of folks breathlessly spouting the latest “news” and following them
Nope
Common sense is so uncommon these days
Better to join the lemmings heading for the cliff crying the world is ending
I made my choice, make your own
I pray for them, worrying is for non believers
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