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Leaked Documents Reveal Coronavirus Infections up to 52 Times Higher Than Reported Figures in China’s Shandong Province
The Epoch Times ^ | 2-26-2020 | Nicole Hao

Posted on 02/26/2020 10:17:17 AM PST by DEPcom

The novel coronavirus outbreak in eastern China’s Shandong province is much worse than officially reported, according to a series of internal government documents obtained by The Epoch Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at theepochtimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: clickbait; coronavirus; falonggong; tinfoil
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To: 9YearLurker

Falun Gong are pretty brave to be honest

They publicly challenge Chinese authority in China

It has consequences


21 posted on 02/26/2020 10:34:48 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: wardaddy

We’ll never know the exact numbers, but I don’t trust statistics emanating from any government - let alone the ChiComs. It’s in their national interest to lie about the magnitude of the problem.


22 posted on 02/26/2020 10:37:37 AM PST by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: littleharbour

Yes authoritarian systems lie by their very nature


23 posted on 02/26/2020 10:38:45 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: All
According to Wiki

"Associated Press reporter Nahal Toosi wrote that it is "technically inaccurate" to say that the Falun Gong organization owns The Epoch Times, but many of the newspaper's staffers are Falun Gong practitioners. Toosi noted that "many observers" have said that Falun Gong uses the newspaper as part of a public relations campaign[28] and that it is connected with the group and carries sympathetic coverage of it"

For the Axe to grind: Is it fair to say Breibart News has an axe to grind with Democrat party?

I have been following Epoch and some others on the China numbers to base my opinion on how bad this virus could be. I do not believe the CCP, they will hide numbers if it makes them look bad.

CCP is in danger of loosing power, so it is in their best interest for the numbers to go down.

As for how bad the virus will be I only had China numbers until it reach South Korea. I think South Korea will tell us a lot.
24 posted on 02/26/2020 10:39:11 AM PST by DEPcom
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To: 9YearLurker

“Falon Gung”

I have to say this “Falon Gung and the horse you rode in on.”


25 posted on 02/26/2020 10:41:40 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: Zhang Fei

Only one of these organizations has killed tens of millions of Chinese, after gaining complete control of it, and it’s not the Falungong.


I understand that, and the Falun Gong were also systematically killed to harvest their organs, but Falun Gong/Dafa has a large presence outside of China, a lot of money, and runs pretty sophisticated propaganda efforts (e.g. their Shen Yun dance troupe that is constantly touring around the U.S.). On the positive side, the Epoch News is pretty pro Trump and pretty conservative.

I’ve mainly run into Falun Dafa in places like Taiwan where they are a presence, usually at tourist spots and downtowns with tables and signs, they often give out free bottled water also. They are ok and relatively polite/friendly, but they can be really irritating also when they get in your face and you are not in the mood to listen to their spiel, they are kind of like a Chinese version of the Hare Krishna. (Although their beliefs of course are totally different.)


26 posted on 02/26/2020 10:42:05 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: DEPcom

I don’t care if 99% of the Chinese population dies so long as no or few Americans do. We should rush the vaccine and share it with them once we have one, close our borders during the interim. Protect Americans First.


27 posted on 02/26/2020 10:47:20 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: DEPcom

The world believed coronavirus was mostly contained....then the new cases in South Korea, Iran and Italy popped up unexpectedly with many people having traveled in and out of those regions to other parts of the world.

Now, if it can be contained in those areas and we do not see a new set of infections, it will be over in months.

If not, this could be an ongoing battle for most of the year.


28 posted on 02/26/2020 10:48:18 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: proust

“Is Epoch Times a good source?”
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That’s a tough one. They are Falun Gong and really have it out for China after the ChiComs captured a few of their reporters. I haven’t seen anything too off-kilter though. They do seem to have sources in China.
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The ChiCom government considers Falun Gong members to be highly desirable organ donors. ;-)


29 posted on 02/26/2020 10:48:26 AM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: Zhang Fei

Not gonna happen when the Pope Joke throws his priest and parishners under the CCP driven bus.


30 posted on 02/26/2020 10:52:03 AM PST by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: dp0622

WHO CARES already about China??

I DO! I absolutely care about China as much as they care about me...…..

I’m starting to get request for quotes from companies I used to make parts for that started out sourcing to China.


31 posted on 02/26/2020 10:52:11 AM PST by heshtesh
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To: PGR88

Given that what communists attempted to do was the economic equivalent of cold fusion, economists predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union pretty much since the Bolshevik Revolution. And ~74 years after its ascension to power, the CPSU’s hold on power went away in 1991. China’s Communist Party came to power in 1949. 2020 marks its 71st year in power. Given the Chinese predilection for numerology, you can bet that both party rivals and influential men not currently in government are individually getting their acts together in preparation for the big game - a competition for the throne similar to what brought the party to power in 1949.

The potential for a new cycle of revolts followed by regime collapse is why Xi Jinping worries about this disease, the way he worries about every aspect of Chinese society that might threaten his rule. The fact that it is now acknowledged as a very big deal means that potential Chinese rivals are now looking at challenging his rule. Big crises have traditionally been the equivalent of a dinner bell or the report of a starter’s gun for ambitious Chinese power contenders because they signal regime vulnerability. China is entering a period of potential regime collapse, and Xi knows it.


32 posted on 02/26/2020 10:53:01 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: DEPcom

“in China’s Shandong Province”

The vast majority of these world wide statistics are what has occurred in China.


33 posted on 02/26/2020 10:53:38 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Erik Latranyi

A Korean Aircrew member just tested positive. They traveled routes via LAX. How many infected? Where are they now and who are they infecting? It may be too late, but we need to more proactively shut down travel to/from these infected countries or require mandatory quarantine for everyone coming here from anywhere overseas. Maybe institute 30 day quarantine for EVERYONE arriving from outside the US.


34 posted on 02/26/2020 10:58:36 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Zhang Fei
All sects and religions are persecuted in China. Falungong has stepped up to the challenge and actually done something to fight its persecutors. If only China’s far more numerous Christians were as organized and focused on overthrowing the regime.

Yes. Any belief that doesn't exalt the government over all is persecuted.

I've followed the Chinese church for over twenty years and they are highly organized, but secretive. Their goal isn't the overthrow of the government, but the conversion of people to Christianity. Some unofficial sources within the church list their numbers at over one hundred million.

35 posted on 02/26/2020 10:59:42 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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To: Reno89519

What were Chinese doing in South Korea, our close ally?

How many South Koreans are paid off as Chinese informants?

Iran has it from Chinese military support for their failing regime.

Italy has not tracked down patient zero yet, so their outbreak has unknown origins...but it is exploding there with hundreds of infections.


36 posted on 02/26/2020 11:07:59 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: wardaddy

“...Pretty ice to shoot a bound woman on her knees in the back of the head...7.62x 39...”

Yeah. Real manly of em.
But hey, that’s what Bernie and the rest of insane, clown-car communist SOBs would do to us IF they could get away with it. That’s why they want us dis-armed with no way to fight back. They’re nothing hammered dog crap, coward POSs....just like the commies in that pic.


37 posted on 02/26/2020 11:09:00 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be a liberal when one is dumber than a box of rocks...)
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To: DEPcom

What is the DEATH percentage? “These are the things I need to know.” (The Chronicles of Riddick (2004))


38 posted on 02/26/2020 11:17:31 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

I have been trying to figure that out. I guess we will not know the true percentage until after the fact.

On the BNO website I have been using the Number of Cases and Death column to calculate. South Korea looks to be 1%, they are pretty good testers.

To get the true percentage, you have to include how many who were infected that did not seek treatment with the number of reported cases.


39 posted on 02/26/2020 11:22:14 AM PST by DEPcom
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To: DEPcom

Shandong province is south of Beijing and north of Shanghai.

This means that Beijing is about to get hit hard.


40 posted on 02/26/2020 11:23:27 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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