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Coronavirus Outbreak 5 to 10 Times Worse Than China Admits: Study
Epoch Times ^
| 02/24/2020
| Eva Fu
Posted on 02/24/2020 8:11:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
The deadly coronavirus that is morphing into a global threat could have infected five to 10 times more people than Chinese officials have acknowledged, a group of U.S. researchers said.
The Feb. 18 study, which has not been peer-reviewed, was co-led by Lucia Dunn, economics professor at Ohio State University, and Mai He, pathology professor at Washington University School of Medicine in St Louis.
Drawing from both official and unofficial data sources, the study suggested the cumulative infections and deaths could be substantially higher than officially statedby a factor of 5 to 10.
So many people are doubting the numbers in China
that we think we should look at alternative numbers, Dunn said in an interview with The Epoch Times.
The data was pulled from official figures; a mobile mapping site from Chinese tech giant Tencent; and reported cremations at funeral homes in Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak.
Anomalous infection numbers appeared briefly on at least two separate occasions on Tencent News, an online news portal that provides real-time tracking of official outbreak data. On Jan. 27 and Feb. 1, the platform reported a cumulative infection (including both confirmed and suspected cases) of more than 213,000 and 233,000 each. In contrast, Wuhan authorities on Feb. 2 reported 14,380 confirmed infections and less than 20,000 suspected casesonly a tenth of the Tencent figure.
The numbers on Tencent were gone in a few hours, although not before Chinese netizens snapped screenshots and circulated them around the internet.
Rather than dismissing these figures as a technical glitch, Dunn said the Tencent data may be an unintentional leak that offers a clue at the outbreaks true scale.
The Epoch Times and other media outlets interviewed staff at several major Wuhan crematoriums, who said they have been operating 24 hours per day since late January,
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chinaoutbreak; coronavirus; covid19; cremation; cremations; crematoria; crematorium; sulfurdioxide; wuhan
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To: SeekAndFind
They’re lying to prevent their economy from collapsing and the government thereafter. Boarding people up in their homes and crematoriums running night and day. It’s a massive coverup effort.
Likely this was a bioweapon that escaped from their lab and they are refusing to let the CDC or WHO in to investigate the cause. This endangers the entire planet and when Senator Cotton asked some simple questions he was attacked by the Washington Post from spreading “conspiracy theories.”
To: TigerClaws
They need to be rid of about a quarter billion of their people, but failed to account for modern mobility (even in a dictatorship like China) spreading it beyond the desired bounds.
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posted on
02/24/2020 8:25:02 AM PST
by
JimRed
(TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
To: SeekAndFind; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
Bring Out Your Dead
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the Bring Out Your Dead ping list (formerly the Ebola ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the Bring Out Your Dead threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.
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posted on
02/24/2020 8:26:16 AM PST
by
null and void
(By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
To: TigerClaws
On Jan. 27 and Feb. 1, the platform reported a cumulative infection (including both confirmed and suspected cases) of more than 213,000 and 233,000 each. In contrast, Wuhan authorities on Feb. 2 reported 14,380 confirmed infections and less than 20,000 suspected casesonly a tenth of the Tencent figure.Finally the markets have noticed... Now people in power will start taking this seriously.
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posted on
02/24/2020 8:34:16 AM PST
by
GOPJ
( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
Uh, well, yaaah...
It’s almost as if the Wuhan crematoria running 24/7 a couple of weeks ago had absolutely something to do with the outbreak; almost as if all the suppression of negative light had bearing on the scope and scale. Imagine, now, if you will, that the coronavirus isn’t under any kind of constraint, precisely because single party state politicians are “handling” it...
...and as summer hits North America, after a long delay of ineffective measures internationally, coronavirus arrives in the US in a big way... now imagine you have a portfolio... do you really still want to own stock in companies with theme parks, amusement parts, fast food restaurants, other restaurants, theaters, pretty much any place where contagions would tend to congregate?
[snip] Dillon said that while he and colleagues were “not understating the human tragedy,” it was important for investors to have perspective about the scale of the coronavirus. “Last year, 42 million people contracted the flu and 61,000 died” in the U.S. alone, he said. [/snip] — Philip van Doorn, MarketWatch, “Here are the worst-performing stocks Monday as investors panic over the coronavirus”, February 24, 2020
... and that’s ‘just the flu’, something for which there are always things in place, hell, the flu vaccine (which is a blend of best-guesses on which strain you’ll come across) is FREE to most in the US, and happens every year, and 61,000 represents one in 5000 Americans (I live out here in The Boonies, and even my little town has 3000 or more people in it).
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posted on
02/24/2020 8:34:51 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: JimRed
TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.Excellent.
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posted on
02/24/2020 8:36:08 AM PST
by
GOPJ
( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
To: SeekAndFind
Drop in the Bucket with 1.5 Billion people
To: SeekAndFind
RUSH HOUR BEFORE
RUSH HOUR AFTER
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posted on
02/24/2020 8:36:40 AM PST
by
seawolf101
(Member LES DEPLORABLES)
To: seawolf101
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posted on
02/24/2020 8:39:26 AM PST
by
RightGeek
(FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
02/24/2020 8:42:56 AM PST
by
IamConservative
(I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
To: seawolf101
There is overwhelming evidence pointing to an initial cover-up by the local Hubei provincial and Wuhan city officials along with some national health officials early last month.
Chinese leaders including President Xi Jinping knew about the outbreak almost two weeks earlier than previously reported, raising intriguing questions about why it took them so long to warn the public about the severity of the outbreak.
In the week before Beijings declaration of all-out war against the epidemic on January 23, life was normal in Wuhan with large-scale public gatherings and activities, even when hospitals in the city were crowded with patients showing symptoms.
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posted on
02/24/2020 8:53:16 AM PST
by
SeekAndFind
(look at Michigan, it will)
To: SeekAndFind
CHINA's MEDICAL SYSTEM IS SEVERELY UNDERMANNED (LESS THAN 1.8 DOCTORS PER 1,000 OF POPULATION
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posted on
02/24/2020 8:57:12 AM PST
by
SeekAndFind
(look at Michigan, it will)
To: seawolf101
Wow. I was in the Beijing train station once. It makes Grand Central look like a hick farmtown stop.
To: SeekAndFind
Yep, the numbers are suspect. With the reported numbers in Wuhan, I'd expect to see at least some elevated reports from the adjacent provinces; that's not happening, however. Two possible reasons come to mind: a) extremely draconian isolation of Wuhan, or b) the numbers are cooked.
Likewise, the reports from North Korea (0) and Russia (2). Color me skeptical.
To: GOPJ
Finally the markets have noticed... Now people in power will start taking this seriously.
I’m pretty sure the “people in power” have been taking this seriously all along. The Americans evacuated from Wuhan were immediately placed in quarantine. The passengers on the Diamond Princess were also placed under a rolling quarantine14 days after the last person diagnosed (I know that that has been suspended as over 600 people aboard have gotten sick), China has quarantined, what? a half billion people, whole Italian cities are under quarantine, Austria has suspended train service from Italy. I’ve taken all of these acts as clues that something big is going on.
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posted on
02/24/2020 9:17:42 AM PST
by
hanamizu
To: SeekAndFind
Two of the 40 “industrial incinerators” brought to Wuhan have already broken due to overuse.
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posted on
02/24/2020 9:24:50 AM PST
by
yefragetuwrabrumuy
(Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
To: hanamizu
Has anyone been able to access the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus map lately? At first I got a message that the website couldn’t be accessed and now I get a map “that hasn’t been configured”. TIA
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posted on
02/24/2020 9:26:46 AM PST
by
hanamizu
To: SeekAndFind
According to that chart, the US is at about 2.5 per 1,000, not appreciably better than China’s 1.8. If we were at 3.5, that’d be different. Oh, and we’re losing docs due to Obamacare.
We’re definitely better off than the average Chinese citizen, to be sure, but a lot of that is because we smoke a lot less, have less pollution (both factors affecting the lungs, which are the chief target of this disease), have better nutrition and have more education than the Chinese, on average. However, if our system gets overwhelmed with this thing, we won’t be much better off.
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posted on
02/24/2020 9:29:58 AM PST
by
Ancesthntr
("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
To: hanamizu
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posted on
02/24/2020 9:33:21 AM PST
by
GOPJ
( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
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