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Richard Grenell: Homosexual Trojan Horse
World Net Daily ^ | February 21, 2020 | Scott Lively

Posted on 02/23/2020 8:42:06 AM PST by fwdude

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To: Tejas Rob

Agree. The attitudes towards gays on this site can be shameful at times.


21 posted on 02/23/2020 9:19:45 AM PST by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: Mariner

no i think his rant is that he’s a trojan horse- He embraces far left ideology on the issue of homosexuality, and perhaps fears that if he’s willing to go in that direction on such an issue,l what else will he compromise on later? Abortion? Special rights for gay people that strips rights from non gay folks?

I don’t know who the fella in the rant is- but that is what i got out of the blurb listed above- If rick embraces such a deviant leftist ideology on the issue of homosexuality, then what’s to say he will hold the line on the conservative values he says he has today? That seemed to be the point the fella was making about the trojan horse bit


22 posted on 02/23/2020 9:20:17 AM PST by Bob434
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To: fwdude

Thank you for this post even though it ruined my day. Scott Lively is a very brave, brilliant man. I’m very disappointed in President Trump (and a couple of freepers) and this more than anything I’ve seen in a long time makes me really fear for the future of the country. I was greatly disappointed when I realized that Trump’s number one spiritual advisor is Paula White . I can see her influence at work. It now would not amaze me if one year from today we start talking about President Sanders and this country is changed forever. You don’t spit in God’s face and expect no consequences.


23 posted on 02/23/2020 9:22:08 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: americas.best.days...

Agree. The attitudes towards gays on this site can be shameful at times

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God spoke some of his harshest words about homosexuality. Are you ashamed of him also?


24 posted on 02/23/2020 9:26:11 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Bob434

I don’t think it’s axiomatic that being homo means you’re a commie.

But I believe there are a lot of people that need it to be an axiom.

I have a good friend that claims to be an ex homo. He’s a hardcore right wing evangelist.

Always has been.


25 posted on 02/23/2020 9:27:27 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I wonder how many homosexuals, in days before they were ‘out’, fought and died in our wars, held high positions effectively, etc.


26 posted on 02/23/2020 9:28:12 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

I know two that served honorably alongside me.


27 posted on 02/23/2020 9:29:37 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: All

All you people who think that fecal sex is quirky but harmless - you believe a lie.

Homosexuals have domestic violence, murder, suicide, and violent assault rates 10 to 30 TIMES higher than the straight population. Not 30%. 30 times.

They have serious communicable disease rates 20-30 TIMES higher than the straight population.

They have serious mental health issues 20-30 TIMES higher than the straight population.

They wear adult diapers. They have to have repeated colon reconstructions surgery.

Homosexuals, including lesbians, including ‘married’ couples, are with few exceptions extremely promiscuous.

These numbers come from a Yale university study headed by a queer man. Other studies back up these numbers.

All of these costs are borne by everyone. And it is extremely expensive.

Homosexuals as a group have moved from demanding acceptance to demanding access and participation.

Homosexuals as a group are moving toward demanding access to children.

Bottom line - you think you are being open minded and non-judgmental. The reality is you are enabling a behavior that is incredibly destructive to the participants and to everyone around them.

Trump’s big weakness has been a series of poor hiring choices. This is another.


28 posted on 02/23/2020 9:31:59 AM PST by TheTimeOfMan (The Eloi unexpectedly protected the Morlocks from rogue Eloi as they themselves prepared to be eaten)
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To: Leep

[[Otherwise, if Grenell does the job he is there to do..without inserting (no pun intended) his sexuality into his job.i can live with him in that position (again, no pun intended).]]

And i think most people could come to trust him IF he olds the conservative line and fights for this country- but folks I think are always leery of someone that is so wrong on a major issue morally- spiritually, and naturally, and so they have an understandable wariness after being burned so many times by people on the right who later turned on the party because they kept compromising on issues far less major than the issue of sexual orientation- people are naturally skeptical of someone on the right who is so far off the beaten path on issues like homosexuality, or abortion, or open borders- Many people don’t trust folks like rubio, and for good reason, because of his stance on border issues, and are just hoping against hope that he doesn’t progress even further to the left on the issue

The old axiom applies here- Trust but verify-

Government is never going to be made up of holy men and women of God entirely- there are always going to be people with broken moral standards who serve- and we understand that and accept it- but many folks i think just have a sinking feeling i n their gut that soemoen with such broken moral compass might one day just turn- While they accept him in a job, they just have a uneasiness about their loyalty- and i think understandably so


29 posted on 02/23/2020 9:32:43 AM PST by Bob434
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To: fwdude

It’s not sexual progressive theory it’s just sexual attraction - I don’t see find hairy butts attractive myself but hey whatever floats your boat.

That said I don’t support gay marriage because it’s an oxymoron and stupid.

I also agree with the Bible that homosexuality is ultimately harmful to a society and a person - both in terms of procreation and of ultimately leading a fulfilling life but that’s purely a theological matter - not a governmental secular one.

if Trump was putting him in charge of education or boys health I’d be concerned - intel? He’s already out so he can’t be blackmailed or compromised that way.

I care more about his ideological attitudes - if he’s gonna clean house I wanna see the Dems try to socially destroy a gay man. (not that they haven’t been hypocriical about this already - see Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, etc;)


30 posted on 02/23/2020 9:36:14 AM PST by Skywise
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To: americas.best.days...

I don’t like these LGTBwhatever activist, or as I call them the “gay mafia”, but Grenell, and many other gays, don’t like what they are doing wither. He isn’t part of that BS.


31 posted on 02/23/2020 9:36:36 AM PST by Tejas Rob
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To: Mariner
I’m amazed anybody cares this much on the subject.Being openly homo does not force anyone else to do anything. And that’s the entire premise of his rant.

This is like saying "I don't care that someone is a communist. It won't cause me any problems later."

The accumulative evidence indicates that when Communists, Muslims or Homosexuals reach critical mass, they then turn into a deadly threat.

Yes, homosexuals are a problem. Is this particular one a problem? He may be doing more good than harm, but I would rather not have any of them in positions of power or even positions which make them appear to be "normal."

They need to be in closets or mental institutions, and they certainly do not need to be in society pretending to be part of society's fabric.

This is just another war front trying to destroy normal society.

32 posted on 02/23/2020 9:39:55 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

soem more facts to add to your list-

a large % of gay people have or will have over 1000 partners in their lifetime- spreading diseases far and wide- affecting even the hetero community

Doctors, nurses, health care folks, nursing home personnel, emergency workers, firemen, police etc etc etc are ALL at risk of getting aids from these folks-

The costs of treating gay people has severely driven up insurance costs, and costs taxpayers a ton of money- Just the drugs alone, wrack up stupendous amounts of money- then as you said- surgeries also cost a ton of money, and many gay people don’t have the money to pay it

People got sick of paying for smoker’s medical bills, so they taxed them out of smoking basically- they waged a relentless war on smokers- claiming it was a ‘preventable disease and folks should not be forced to finance someone’s medical bills if they choose to engage in such a risky endeavor’

In the above paragraph- just replace ‘smokers’ with ‘gay people’ to see how unfair it was to target smokers- but unfortunately, some groups of people are more tolerable than others to the self righteous left- so smokers got bullied out of their addiction, while gay people get supported to keep right on practicing their deviant dangerous massively expensive lifestyle


33 posted on 02/23/2020 9:41:04 AM PST by Bob434
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To: BlackAdderess
Trump isn’t going to discriminate against a person based on sexual orientation. The reason gay men used to be considered a security risk is because outing them would destroy their lives.

It's not that simple. Homosexuals account for the vast majority of sexually transmitted diseases in any society. They account for many times more sexual molestation of children than their numbers represent. Something like 40% of all sexual molestations are of male children, and this from 2% of the total population.

They generally die from suicide. Suicide is the number one cause of death among homosexuals. Also, they have a pretty bad track record when it comes to turning traitor to their own country. Too many times have homosexuals turned out to be the ones sending secret information from their governments to enemy governments. For an example, look up the "Cambridge Five."

Homosexuals are deviant and mentally ill. They should not even be allowed to associate in normal society. They should be locked up in asylums as was the normal practice for most of this nation's existence.

Oh, and they make up the majority of serial murderers too.

34 posted on 02/23/2020 9:45:08 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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To: Mariner

[[I don’t think it’s axiomatic that being homo means you’re a commie.]]

No- but most are- which is why folks have such a hard time trusting that there are true conservative homosexuals-


35 posted on 02/23/2020 9:48:13 AM PST by Bob434
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To: fwdude

Seems some folks here are able to cast the first stone.


36 posted on 02/23/2020 9:49:45 AM PST by Tejas Rob
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To: BlackAdderess
The reason gay men used to be considered a security risk is because outing them would destroy their lives. This meant that they could be easily blackmailed.

Nowadays it's seen as a resume enhancer, job security and easy foot in the door. Just acting the part well in an interview when you aren't really a homo and explaining the wife and kids as a front can get you the job faster than a degree and years of experience.
Diversity ya know !

37 posted on 02/23/2020 9:51:35 AM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: Tejas Rob
Not sure where this hate is coming from ...

This has long been a mostly Christian nation, with Jews being the largest next group with a history in this nation, and both share some of the same bible.

The bible tells us that god burned two cities full of homosexuals to death because of their wickedness. The bible also tells us that the combined might of all the tribes of Israel slew every Benjamite they could get their hands on because of the Homosexual wickedness of the men of Benjamin.

Beyond these two examples, the bible actually comes out and says explicitly that homosexuals should be killed. It doesn't mince any words about this. It says:

"'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

So given that most of the society for most of the history of this nation is based on a religion as given by the bible, where do you suppose all the "hate" comes from?

It comes from the fact that so many people still believe the bible is the word of God.

38 posted on 02/23/2020 9:53:34 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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To: fwdude

The Killshot for gays being democrat is ask them “if there is a test to determine if an unborn baby is homosexual, would you be OK with the parents aborting it?”

When the homosexual comes back with “I don’t see Christians aborting homosexual babies”, ask him what about Muslims, African Americans and Asians?... they would.

The science shows the majority of gay men were born that way. Sure there are groomed or prison conversions, but straight men like sex with women and gay men do not.

This science of Gay is way more settled than CO2 causes global warming.

Thumpers need to pick their battles. If gays can help them have less babies be killed or keep a one world government from happening, they need to accept the help.


39 posted on 02/23/2020 9:57:06 AM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: fwdude

The Killshot for gays being democrat is ask them “if there is a test to determine if an unborn baby is homosexual, would you be OK with the parents aborting it?”

When the homosexual comes back with “I don’t see Christians aborting homosexual babies”, ask him what about Muslims, African Americans and Asians?... they would.

The science shows the majority of gay men were born that way. Sure there are groomed or prison conversions, but straight men like sex with women and gay men do not.

This science of Gay is way more settled than CO2 causes global warming.

Thumpers need to pick their battles. If gays can help them have less babies be killed or keep a one world government from happening, they need to accept the help.


40 posted on 02/23/2020 9:57:06 AM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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