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To: fwdude

“Obergefell redefined marriage as merely an association between two persons who want to cohabit sexually”

That is a fairly accurate description of what it sought to do on paper, except that lesbian couples don’t have sex. Obergefell was another step toward destroying what was left of male-female relations in the West. Feminism and no fault divorce had already destroyed the institution of marriage. Same sex “marriage” was an endzone dance.

Yes, there really is a Culture War. It won’t be won by a modest reduction in marginal tax rates.


6 posted on 02/21/2020 2:33:35 PM PST by cdcdawg (Cornpop was a pony soldier!)
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To: cdcdawg
"...lesbian couples don’t have sex..."

We've got a problem here with a word, "sex," which is almost entirely raveled out when it comes to coherent meaning.

If by "sex" you mean "identity based on reproductive genetics/anatomy," them, of course each lesbian has a sex, namely, female.

If by "sex" you mean "sexual union," meaning that physical union of the two sexes which has reproductive potential, then lesbians do not "have sex" but neither can males "have sex" with males. They cannot achieve sexual union, that is, the union of the sexes.

If by "sex" you mean, "achieving genital arousal with orgasm/climax," then yeah. The teenage Portnoy famously "had sex" with a plate of beef livers.

Nevertheless,I don't think he aspired to marry the livers.

17 posted on 02/21/2020 5:29:09 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by diabolical disorientation. -Mrs Dono)
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To: cdcdawg

You are so correct.

This can only be won by the act and work of God’s grace and forgiveness, and repentance in the hearts of individuals.


18 posted on 02/21/2020 9:45:17 PM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!))
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