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Alabama representative introduces bill forcing men over 50 to have vasectomies
American Thinker ^ | 02/14/2020 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 02/14/2020 7:06:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Last year, Alabama passed a law banning abortion except for situations in which the mother’s life is at risk. A federal judge found the bill unconstitutional and the Alabama Attorney General did not appeal the decision. Nevertheless, on Thursday, State Rep. Rolanda Hollis introduced a counter-bill requiring that all men over fifty or who have had three children must get a vasectomy. The bill is silly and fails to make a convincing pro-abortion case.

The bill’s summary is brief:

Under existing law, there are no restrictions on the reproductive rights of men.

This bill would require a man to undergo a vasectomy within ne month of his 50th birthday or the birth of his third biological child, whichever comes first.

Hollis explained that she wants to highlight that it’s wrong for Alabama ever to foreclose the possibility of abortion for unwanted children, especially in cases of rape or incest:

This is to neutralize the abortion ban bill,” Hollis said. “The responsibility is not always on the woman — it takes two to tango. This is to prevent pregnancy and the abortion of unwanted children and to help men become accountable as well as women.

“You don’t think about what women have to go through as far as incest and rape, but you want them to carry a kid out of rape or incest so let’s neutralize it,” she continued.

Hollis further explained that men should not tell women what to do with their bodies:

“I'm pro-life and I'm pro-choice and what I mean by that is I don’t believe in abortion as a birth control, but I believe if a woman is raped or there’s incest or health reasons, then they [should] have a choice,”


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; search; vasectomy
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To: Agatsu77

No, we are not idiots. This is the dems reply to the pro life bill recently passed here.


61 posted on 02/14/2020 8:13:17 AM PST by Himyar (Comes A Stillness)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

“In the bill, are there free AA batteries for women over 50?”
“Change that to 30 and add two cats.”

OK...Women over 30 get two cats, free AA batteries and all Shades of Gray books.


62 posted on 02/14/2020 8:15:19 AM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: twister881

LOL LOL!


63 posted on 02/14/2020 8:15:53 AM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Alabama representative introduces bill forcing men over 50 to have vasectomies"

As the Demorat Communist ship continues to take on water at an ever increasing rate, the rat crew is becoming more desperate and delusional by the day. Their incoherent rantings are there for everyone to see and mock.

64 posted on 02/14/2020 8:22:20 AM PST by Desron13 (You may choose to ignore reality but you can't force reality to ignore you.)
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To: G Larry

Right now, correct me if I’m wrong, The SCOTUS has ruled that abortions are a constitutional right.

Ok?

So, they pass a bill outlawing abortions in Alabama.

Their courts say the bill is unconstitutional, and technically he is right.

BUT

Their AG does not challenge the ruling.

So, case closed.


65 posted on 02/14/2020 8:22:53 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Rurudyne

Lol I know you were joking. I was joking too.


66 posted on 02/14/2020 8:24:07 AM PST by Pocketdoor
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To: WKUHilltopper

Her wig needs a chin strap.


67 posted on 02/14/2020 8:30:08 AM PST by Senormechanico
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To: SeekAndFind

Sperm viability and potency are actually two different things. The fact that both disappear about the same age (sometime after 50 or so) in most males kind of makes this proposal moot.

Viagra can ARTIFICIALLY restore a form of potency for a few hours, but it does not cure the underlying condition, which is diminished blood flow though the arteries of the aging male body. Likewise, this reduced blood flow affects, negatively, the sperm count and viability, as the gonads grow ever more blood-starved over time.

Cruel joke of nature, just when mama of the same vintage is getting a little more lusty, and no longer produces viable ova.


68 posted on 02/14/2020 8:32:33 AM PST by alloysteel (Freedom is not a matter of life and death. It is much more serious than that..)
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To: pepsionice

“My hunch is that the Supreme Court would be interested in the Constitutional side of this. I doubt if it’d be allowed to stand. Course, it might shock some folks that you might have 3,000 young men per year in the state....volunteer to get the ‘free’ service.”

I can see it all now. Get a taxpayer vasectomy, get a “Proof of Purchase” card, to get more nookey from nubile women.
The side effect will be a whole new category for fake ID.


69 posted on 02/14/2020 8:38:36 AM PST by Senormechanico
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To: SeekAndFind
Gesetz zur Verhütung erbkranken Nachwuchses

Nazi "Sterilisation Law" 1934

So I guess the Democrats' are now Nazis!

70 posted on 02/14/2020 8:43:59 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: SeekAndFind

Whatever happened to “My body my choice” and “Keep the Government out of the bedroom?”


71 posted on 02/14/2020 8:48:51 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: fireman15

My son was born when I was 48 but then again I live in Georgia!


72 posted on 02/14/2020 9:03:25 AM PST by SubVet72
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To: SeekAndFind
And another cat-litter-for-brains pol emerges...

What a complete chutzpah! It's none of her business whether men over 50 are capable of fathering a child. Maybe they are Catholics or Orthodox Jews. If they can father a child (with their wife) and completely support it financially and emotionally, it's nobody's business but their own. What man donned a blindfold to mate with THIS hag? And what will she seek to control next?

73 posted on 02/14/2020 9:20:30 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: Senormechanico

“Her wig needs a chin strap.”

Do they make them that big?


74 posted on 02/14/2020 10:04:17 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: DeplorablePaul

I agree with the theory. But the problem with the “new” generations is that the education system has destroyed the male in its efforts to equalize women.

I feel one of the main issues that make women go for women is that they can’t find real men as they are told men are evil and a threat to them so they can’t find men to meet their expectations physically, intellectually, and especially the emotional side they are taught to determine.

Men on the other hand, have grown fearful of women in the younger ranks because they are, also, told the women are a threat to them, so they turn away from them and toward their male counterparts. It’s safer and they are unprepared to deal with the issue as it has been shoved down their throats.

So a bill that sterilizes people for the purpose of nothing using any criteria, is being over controlling and not “fessing up” for the real reasons. Their saying it is what it is...okay, what is it?

There are a number of articles using the term “no real men anymore,” and I’m inclined to agree with them. But the stock haven’t changed, just the way they are herded. And this bill is a train that comes from the no where and goes to the no place. It doesn’t solve anything the government hasn’t already created in their lack of pre-planning stupidity.

Besides, first question that will be asked, if abortion is supposed to be a choice, why not male sterilization? The slope is slick, isn’t it? It’ll look like the mud hill in McClintock.

rwood


75 posted on 02/14/2020 10:15:03 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: SeekAndFind
Under existing law, there are no restrictions on the reproductive rights of men.

Well, unless the woman is not responsive to participate, I hope.

76 posted on 02/14/2020 10:22:43 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Welp, that’s not too over-the-line for those in Alabama! :-)


77 posted on 02/14/2020 10:42:53 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: irishjuggler

I agree with you about the intent of this Bill. In the end though, it will actually work against them.

As a man, your reproductive freedom is already severely limited. I know this may anger women who do not want to acknowledge the truth, but here goes anyways.

Men and women are not “equally responsible” for a preganancy. Other than the consent to actually have sex there is no equal responsiblilty.

Women have what? 12 means of birth control (not counting surgery) to prevent pregnancies. Men have one, a condom, which is the least effective of all methods. Trying to say that the responsibility is equal, once sex has been had, is like saying that if a man and a woman are both driving a car, they are equally responsible for having an accident, even if the man has one method (the least effective method) to stop the car and the woman has 12 ways to stop it. Sorry, but not equal culpability.

Also, No pregnancy goes to fruition, leading to a birth, without the consent of a woman. If I were to get a woman pregnant and she wanted to keep the child but I didn’t, she could FORCE me to be a parent and pay child support. Conversely, If I wanted to keep the child, but she didn’t, there is no way that I can FORCE her to carry the child to term and give birth. Yet somehow we are to believe that men have complete reproductive freedom and women don’t? Sorry, not buying it.

And before anyone says, “well, the man can just walk away”, I will address that. Can he just walk away? The states are pretty adept at collecting child support and will garnish wages or jail a man who does not pay. This rarely happens to women, even in the unlikely event she is court ordered to pay support.

This does not mention several other anti-male reproductive policies or laws. Such as, in many states if the wife becomes pregnant during marriage, the husband is presumed to be the father, even if a DNA test proves otherwise. This law exists in AZ, where I live. Many other states have this policy on the books as well.

So, I do not buy into the conventional wisdom that women are victims and men have all of the advantages when the truth is exactly the opposite.


78 posted on 02/14/2020 1:08:48 PM PST by BizBroker ("You may ignore reality, but you may not ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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