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To: oldasrocks

I ran the numbers using beginning with 41 infected people, and each one of them able to infect 3 other people. At day 12 it came to 44 million people infected. That seems really high, so I either did the math wrong or made some wrong assumptions. For example, not everyone comes in contact with a bunch of different people every day.

But - 90,000 dead out of 44 million is a mortality rate of 0.2%. Last years mortality rate of flu in the USA was estimated at 0.3% - with 90,000 dead from the flu. Although the first thing I thought when I heard the Asian gal talking about 90,000 - “Hmm - I wonder if they just pulled that number out of wikipedia?”


79 posted on 01/26/2020 12:58:31 PM PST by 21twelve (!)
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To: 21twelve

What was your assumption for the time it takes each person (actually the virus they are carrying) to become infectious?

With most viruses, as I understand it, one is not infectious until the incubation period has run it’s course and symptoms present - however mild they might be at the beginning. I suspect this is not the precise “one phase ends, the next begins” that it is often made out to be, and that one’s own infectiousness “ramps up”, perhaps being at a low level before symptoms are detectable.

Then the incubation period itself can vary greatly from one individual to another. I’ve read it can be anywhere from 1 to 14 days. What is “typical” for 2019-nCoV I don’t know, and I don’t even know if it could determined accurately this early on in a setting where many potential contacts might exist.

Additionally, some reports indicate 2019-nCoV can be infectious during the incubation period. I very much doubt this would be likely in the first half of the incubation period, assuming a single time of exposure. But this could be related to that “ramp up” of infectiousness I was speculating about, or perhaps for some victims there is an extended period of very low level symptoms coupled with a significant degree of infectiousness.

(Several times in the past I have thought I had a cold starting, then seem to “stall” (only mild symptoms), then it’d seem to almost disappear for a few days, and just about the time I thought, “yeah, I have this beat”, it’d roar back as a full fledged head cold and put me in bed for a day or two. I was probably infectious the whole time, but, HOW infectious each day? Hmmm.)

All that makes for quite complicated & tedious “predicting” or computation. However, one can crunch it down into a sort of average: Let’s say that for 2019-nCoV, each person infected becomes infectious in 4 days, and infects 3 other people, all on that 4th day, and thereafter is out of the picture.

Day 0 = 41 infected.

Day 4 = 123 infected.

Day 8 = 369 infected.

Day 12 = 1107 infected.

Day 16 = 3321 infected.

And so on.

That is “way simplistic”, but gives some idea of the progress of the disease.


92 posted on 01/27/2020 1:07:35 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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