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To: Cboldt

All of this is political grandstanding because Democrats know they’re gonna lose.

People don’t care. Even Chuck U knows nothing is going to affect the outcome regardless of whether or not witnesses are called.

The Democrats put on a half baked case rushed through to meet a political calendar.

A presidential acquittal isn’t in doubt.


544 posted on 01/25/2020 9:43:14 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Yep, the Dems were always going to argue the process of the Senate and my feeling is, if you are arguing process, that means you are losing.


550 posted on 01/25/2020 9:45:53 AM PST by goodolemr
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To: goldstategop
All of this is political grandstanding because Democrats know they’re gonna lose.

The hope of the defense is that there are at least a couple of Dims that have sufficient conscience and respect for the system to vote no on this fiasco.

557 posted on 01/25/2020 9:51:34 AM PST by KevinB ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin)
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To: goldstategop
-- All of this is political grandstanding because Democrats know they're gonna lose. --

Yep. In light of the fact that removal is not the objective, we're back to where we started in 2016. Trump is not legitimate, this is not a legitimate presidency, yada yada yada. All the moles in the Executive department are being told that the Congress has thier back. Same message to the judges.

Damn the torpedos. The moles in State, DOJ, and IC will continue to sabotage Trump every chance they get. They will never, ever give up.

Schiff's team looks listless. He's the only one that appears to have any energy. He's giving a point by point "rebuttal." The press is hanging on. I bet Schiff could go on for an hour and the press would just hang agound and take notes.

Schiff says it is damaging for Trump to not trust the intelligence agencies - the corollary is he trusts Putin more. Schiff says outright that Ukraine made no effort to interfere in the 2016 election. Crowdstrike kookie crazy conspiracy theory.

Schiff also aid that Trump brought up Giuliani in the July 25 call. Nope.

President Zelenskyy: Yes it is very important for me and everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a President, it is very important and we are open for any future cooperation. We are ready to open a new page on cooperation in relations between the United States and Ukraine. For that purpose, I just recalled our ambassador from United States and he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who will work hard on making sure that our two nations are getting closer. I would also like and hope to see him having your trust and your confidence and have personal relations with you so we can cooperate even more so. I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. I will make sure that I surround myself with the best and most experienced people. I also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great friends and you Mr. President have friends in our country so we can continue our strategic partnership. I also plan to surround myself with great people and in addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the investigations will be done openly and candidly.. That I can assure you.

569 posted on 01/25/2020 10:01:11 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: goldstategop

Right.

Don’t step in the Schitt

You must acquit


570 posted on 01/25/2020 10:01:23 AM PST by Gasshog
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