Posted on 01/24/2020 2:56:21 PM PST by aquila48
(Estimates of impact of regular flu in the US for the last year)
15,000,000 – 21,000,000 flu illnesses
7,000,000 – 10,000,000 flu medical visits
140,000 – 250,000 flu hospitalizations
8,200 – 20,000 flu deaths
*These estimates are preliminary and based on data from CDC’s weekly influenza surveillance reports summarizing key influenza activity indicators.
This web page provides weekly preliminary estimates of the cumulative in-season numbers of flu illnesses, medical visits, hospitalizations, and deaths in the United States. CDC has estimated the burden of flu since 2010 using a mathematical model that is based on observed rates of laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations collected through a surveillance network that covers approximately 8.5% of the U.S. population (~27 million people).
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In the winter of 2017-2018 there 80,000 deaths from flu in the US alone!! That's not to minimize the threat of this new virus, but to put things in perspective.
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/
Thanx
What is worrying is that I don’t believe we are getting accurate information from China.
Their behavior suggests this is much worse than described.
I thought we were supposed to be worried about vaping deaths!
The Daily Sun today is showing pictures of people literally dying in the streets in Wuhan.
The Wuhan Flu is much worse than the Chinese Communist Party are telling anyone.
The coronavirus mortality is at about 4 percent though. Much much higher than the flu, and that’s if you believe the Chinese numbers.
In perspective, 20k deaths / 15000k cases of flu = a death rate of .0013 or 0.13%.
This new virus has a death rate that looks like it’s between 2 and 4%. It’s hard to estimate because because it’s new. But currently it looks a lot more dangerous than the flu. If only because none of us have had it before.
Some of the existing cases might yet die, which would raise the rate. But there may be a lot more cases than we are aware of, which would lower the rate.
Initially it looks highly contageous like the flu. One “Super spreader” gave it to 14 healthcare workers in Wuhan. But healthcare workers will be taking better precautions now. And we’re probably learning how to treat it better.
SARS started out highly contagious but petered out after 4 or 5 transmissions. Not sure what this will do. Might stay stable, peter out, or mutate into worse.
It definitely worth the concern, and taking precautions and urging officials to try to contain it.
I think China, WHO, and CDC are doing better than they did with SARS, but I suspect there is a lot of room for improvement. Faster quarantine in Wuhan might have saved a lot of lives.
“Debating if I need to start prepping in case this virus goes full blown.”
We had a few relatives in the midwest and eastern states ask us since we live in the land of disasters, aka California, with year round disasters:. Fires,earthquakes, floods and ????.
What type of preparations should they think about. So we put this together yesterday as a semi joke. We got thank you’s back from many relatives and friends some good suggestions. Which we added.
With the modern curse of next day delivery of food, water, medicine and other necessary items, There are no basic inventories past a couple of days before outages.
My wife has 40 plus years of being an RN, and I can spell MBA.
Here is our modest prep plan for even Californians:
What, would happen if your community was basically shut down for 2-4 weeks due to a quarantine.
No one could leave or get into your community for 2-4 weeks.
What you and your family eat and drink
When would you have power failures and maybe natural gas shutoffs. Cooking might be impossible without power. Keeping food fresh and edible in refrigerators and freezers becomes a 24/7 challenge.
Living in California, besides our grab/go bags, we keep enough water and food for 2-3 weeks. Also, food that doesn’t have to be refrigerated or frozen.
Food that is in our combo refrig/freezer lasts for 2-4 days to a week if we get in and out quickly. The freezer on the bottom has frozen bottles of water on the top shelves. Food is still edible after a few days.
Our standing freezer with frozen water bottles on top inside shelf, has kept food frozen for 5-7 days with the get in and out quick action.
So, you eat your refrig food first, your freezer food next and then your non refrig/freezer food.
If this thing goes full viral, you need to have 2-4 weeks of food and water handy.
You, also, need to have 2-4 weeks of your important Rx medicines and that minimum for your daily otc meds. The same goes for tooth paste and similar items.
Keep at least a half tank of gasoline in your vehicles. Good luck with any solar vehicle that has to have its batteries charged to get out of your driveway.
Home and self defense needs to be considered.
“What, would happen if your community was basically shut down for 2-4 weeks due to a quarantine.
No one could leave or get into your community for 2-4 weeks.
What you and your family eat and drink
When would you have power failures and maybe natural gas shutoffs. Cooking might be impossible without power. Keeping food fresh and edible in refrigerators and freezers becomes a 24/7 challenge.”
I have several months of rice and beans in dry form. I have a few weeks of water. I also live near a lake and could utilize this and make it perfectly potable with chlorax.
If I had no electricity and water supplies. I would heat my living room with my fireplace. If cold we would need to sleep in the living room. I live on ten acres of land with much wood to be used for heating and cooking. I have abundant game on my land. I am very adept with firearms and can kill game as needed and also threats.
I would first eat all my perishable goods and this would only be for a few days as it goes bad quickly. I would then eat all my can goods. This would make me good for about two weeks. I would then go to my rice and beans that are good for several months. I would then kill game on my land. In actuality I would start killing game the moment society breaks down. I would smoke it (yes I have a smoker) as it could then be preserved without refrigeration.
It would not be pleasant but I and my family would survive. I was most fortunate to be raised in South Louisiana swamp land and also West Texas. We know how to survive.
I with with my family will survive!
You have a survival plan for whatever bad comes you way.
In spite of all the disasters, we have each year in California, many would go hungry if their Salvation Army was not there to provide food and water after the latest disaster.
People love sky is falling hysteria.
The term "Coronavirus" covers a lot of similar-shaped viruses including ones that case the common cold. This has been designated "2019-nCoV" is running a death rate less than SARS so far. Also the death rate for the common flu is running at 6.7% in last week's #'s.
Fox Business just said .03% (I think). Way less than SARS
Hard to know if this corona stuff is truth or hype. Hard to know if China would ever be honest!
Read a study out of Japan where high dose vitamin D increases resistance to viruses.
Took high dose D (10,000) units last two winters (no flu shot) and I avoided the office annual Christmas season bug. Maybe I just got lucky.
Anyway gonna keep it up for a bit longer this year.
I love to cook more than I love to eat. I probably have 4 months of food in the freezers.
The electricity goes out, my neighbors will be well fed!!!
I love to cook more than I love to eat. I probably have 4 months of food in the freezers.
On route 1 south of Monterrey in the Big Sur area, basically every winter they lose their electrical power for a minimum of a week and often with road washouts.
Often the natives in that area have massive grilling of what was in their freezers to keep it from going to waste.
It can’t be .03%. It’s more like 3%.
There have been 41 deaths and 1300 confirmed cases.
40/1300=3.2%. But it may be higher, because many of the 1300 cases are fresh and we don’t know if they will die yet.
Sars had a death rate of 9-12%. But if I recall correctly there was something about SARS that made it weaker everytime it transmitted, and it petered out after 4 to 5 transmissions.
The flu by contrast has a death rate of 0.13%. But then most of us have had the flu in the past. And we get vaccines.
If the Coronavirus survives year to year, it’s death rate will drop as the percent of people who have had it goes up. But the first year or two will be bad. Lets hope it doesn’t survive.
Thanks aquila48. Oddly enough, the reminder that a million people die of the flu every year doesn't come as that much of a comfort. ;^)
I also recall the Great Vaping Plague of 2019. The last one was the Richmond 2nd Amendment Lobby Day Massacre of 2020, not even a week ago.
Freegards
Also, that the flu comparison starts on the Chinese language chat forums by known gov propaganda producers and the people that pass it on to us always leave off the last bit...
But only 60 a year die of the flu in China.
only 60 a year die of the flu in China.
Yeah, and fewer than 60 have died of this coronavirus outbreak. /s
I wonder what impact this epidemic is having on Mexican beer?
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