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The real question is whether impeachment follows the House position that it is entirely a political process, free of any restraints with respect to truth, honor, honesty, etc.

By rejecting the articles outright, the Senate will act to establish a precedent that impeachment more closely follows established due process legal standards.

This is the crux of the issue.

1 posted on 01/22/2020 8:58:57 AM PST by semantic
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To: Alberta's Child

Interesting that this just popped up. In response to your comment on the other thread, the Senate has no choice but to insert themselves. They must decide whether they will be subject to the House political process, or by rejecting the articles outright, establish a higher legal standard for future generations.


2 posted on 01/22/2020 9:00:55 AM PST by semantic
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To: semantic

I agree with the AGs.
Reject it as flawed.


3 posted on 01/22/2020 9:06:42 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: semantic
Judge Roberts is knowingly and willingly presiding over a pretense of impeachment...there is NO crime committed by the POTUS...Chairman Schiff ran an obvious Kangaroo Court in which the POTUS was presumed guilty...how can the Judge rule on allegations, observations, opinions and second-hand notions. Answer: Judge Roberts can't rule on AIR. Here are real law breakers:


4 posted on 01/22/2020 9:18:42 AM PST by yoe ( Look at the "Squad" is that the future anyone wants for America?)
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To: semantic
As an American, I am furious at those who would make my VOTE null and void...no matter what the reason...the Democrat/Socialist Left is illegally trampling MY Constitutional vote and in the process...trampling my Constitutional Rights.

They speak of the Constitution like an American then abuse the heck out of it like the Communists they are.

ENOUGH!

5 posted on 01/22/2020 9:45:09 AM PST by yoe ( Look at the "Squad" is that the future anyone wants for America?)
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To: semantic

Impeachment is called for under the Constitution only if a President is (presumably credibly) thought to have committed “high crimes and misdemeanors.” In this particular case, I don’t believe that the Dems have cited any particular federal statute that President Trump is alleged to have violated. “Obstruction of Congress” may be a thing within Congress, but I don’t believe that it is an actual crime with which one can be charged. “Abuse of power” is absolutely NOT a crime - it is an opinion, as Dennis Prager has stated.

I am on the horns of a dilemma - on the one hand, I’d like the Republicans to make a motion to dismiss the entire impeachment on the grounds that there hasn’t been a crime alleged, meaning that the impeachment (indictment) was improper and thus invalid; on the other hand, part of me wants this dragged out, first to show the Dems for the hyper-partisan liars that they are and, second, to keep the behavior of the Dems in the full view of the public for as long as possible. Either way, Trump will win in November - but I’m interested in the largest possible margin of victory for him and also for lots and lots of Dems on all levels to lose.


6 posted on 01/22/2020 10:12:58 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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The GOP letter was signed by the attorneys general of Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, and West Virginia.


8 posted on 01/22/2020 10:27:28 AM PST by glock rocks (orange man bad-ass)
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