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To: Hebrews 11:6

“Lovely list! There is yet a newer argument which might be called “from proven transcendant causation.”
In 1970 atheists Steven Hawking and Roger Penrose published their now-famous space-time theorem, which demonstrated that any universe (1) containing mass (just look at your waistline for proof) and in which general relativity reliably functions (now proven to 15+ decimal places) must have had a beginning, implying a transcendant causal agent, which comports perfectly with the God of the Bible.”

Both are brilliant physicists/cosmologists. And, both were/are committed atheists, as you point out. Although, Penrose does not seem to be a militant atheist. I’m really surprised at Penrose, though. He has done some creative work on conciseness. While he does not outright suggest it as a theorem, he believes that consciousness is related to quantum principals which is but one small leap to it being a field that is pervasive throughout the universe (via quantum theory).

Wonder where that field might come from?

Here is another interesting read from an obscure author and MD who makes a compelling case for justifying a creator from science. http://bit.ly/2seVjdM.

IC Clearly


52 posted on 01/12/2020 3:54:28 PM PST by icclearly
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To: icclearly
Thanks for the referral--I'll look into Baumann.

Meanwhile, one for you: Hugh Ross's books.

53 posted on 01/12/2020 4:52:17 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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