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Americans Believe Epstein Was Murdered
Townhall.com ^ | January 12, 2020 | Jeff Crouere

Posted on 01/12/2020 4:41:05 AM PST by Kaslin

The American people no longer trust what they hear from the media and their government. Ever since his first campaign started in 2015, President Donald Trump has railed against his political opponents within the government and has often warned the American people not to trust the “Fake News” media. These warnings seem to have been heeded especially in the case of the death of disgraced financier and alleged pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

While the media and government officials have repeatedly assured the country that Epstein committed suicide in his prison cell on August 10, 2019, the American people are not convinced. A new Rasmussen Reports survey indicates that only 21% of the American people believe that Epstein killed himself. While 27% are undecided, most respondents, 52%, believe that Epstein was murdered.

The results are a significant change from the last Rasmussen Reports poll in mid-August. At that time, only 42% of respondents believed Epstein was murdered, while 29% believed the “official story” that he committed suicide. As time has passed, more Americans have become convinced that the suicide story is bogus.

Every day the evidence mounts that this case is highly unusual. It was just discovered that the video footage from outside Epstein’s prison cell on July 23, 2019, the night of his first so-called attempted suicide, was accidentally destroyed. According to officials at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, the videos were not preserved “as a result of technical errors.”

Prosecutors had guaranteed attorneys for Epstein’s former cellmate, Nicholas Tartaglione, that the evidence was being protected by jail officials. After learning of this new development, one of Jeffrey Epstein’s attorneys, Marc Fernich, said it “only adds to the unanswered questions and deepens the air of mystery surrounding (Epstein’s) death, feeding the perception that the public will never really know what happened — and that the powers that be aren’t really interested in finding out. Nothing about Jeffrey Epstein’s prosecution and death in federal custody surprises or could surprise me at this point.”

After Epstein allegedly tried to commit suicide in July, prison officials initially placed him under close supervision. Incredibly, the extra monitoring did not last long for he was found dead on August 10. At that time, he was alone in his cell because his cellmate had been transferred the previous day.

The two guards entrusted to monitor Epstein supposedly neglected their duties. Instead of watching the most high-profile prisoner at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, they reportedly were napping and surfing the Internet. It strains credulity to believe that a notorious prisoner who had purportedly just tried to commit suicide would be left alone in his jail cell with no supervision and allowed to possess the apparent means to kill himself.

This week, the CBS news program 60 Minutes released the first photos of Epstein’s autopsy. It showed that the noose supposedly used in the suicide did not contain blood even though Epstein’s neck was bloodied. The noose was also not cut, even though a jail guard reportedly cut down Epstein from his hanging position after discovering him.

Famed forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden was hired by Epstein’s brother and was present at the autopsy. It is his determination that Epstein was most likely murdered. During a career that has spanned more than 60 years, Baden has conducted over 20,000 autopsies. Regarding the condition of Epstein’s body, Baden asserted that “There were fractures of the left, the right thyroid cartilage and the left hyoid bone. I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging. Going over a thousand jail hangings, suicides in the New York City state prisons over the past 40-50 years, no one had three fractures.”

Baden’s doubts about Epstein committing suicide are now shared by most Americans, according to the Rasmussen poll. One reason so many Americans suspect that Epstein was murdered is that there were many powerful people who may have wanted him dead.

He operated what authorities believe was a sex trafficking operation involving underage girls and prominent individuals, including the elite from politics, Hollywood and business. In July of 2019, Epstein was indicted on sex trafficking and sex trafficking conspiracy charges and he was being held in Metropolitan Correctional Center awaiting trial. His list of influential associates included former Democratic Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, Prince Andrew and former President Bill Clinton among many others.

This week, The Sun released photos of former President Bill Clinton with Chauntae Davies, a massage therapist, who was one of the “sex slaves” abused by Epstein. Another photo shows Clinton boarding Epstein’s plane, “The Lolita Express,” for a 2002 trip to Africa. It has been documented that Clinton flew on Epstein’s plane over two dozen times.

Even though Attorney General Bill Barr claims that Epstein committed suicide, citing the video evidence he saw from that night, the American people are very skeptical. Over the years, there have been many cases in which the federal government has been less than truthful with the American people. There is strong suspicion that this may be another case of the American people being purposely misled. 


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; trustbarr
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

.....”but i don’t like the powers that be think we are so stupid”....

They have no concern over what we think one way or the other.....they opperate according to control of elections and candidates, as well as the count and how they can change it.


61 posted on 01/12/2020 11:38:42 AM PST by caww
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To: Lakeshark

“I had hoped he (Barr) would be better. His unwillingness to go after the corruptocrats is more than puzzling.”

Puzzling? Not really. He’s been tight with Mueller for decades. Their wives are BFFs - so I’ve heard. Barr IS the swamp, and he controls all of it.


62 posted on 01/12/2020 11:43:14 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength" - Corrie ten Boom)
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To: Roccus

Excellent post.


63 posted on 01/12/2020 2:14:17 PM PST by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020 and again in 2024. EPSTEIN WAS MURDERED. "Seditious Conspiracy" is everywhere.)
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To: caww

Be glad all you want that’s he’s gone, the problem is they murdered him to keep him from telling all.


64 posted on 01/12/2020 2:37:46 PM PST by stockpirate (Anyone who believes Epstein killed himself is a fool)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
He was the AG who oversaw Ruby Ridge.

Yup. That pretty much sums up Bob Barr in a nutshell. Not only that, he personally donated his time pro-bono to Lon Horouchi.

I consider it extraordinarily unlikely that my skepticism of Barr will ever be proved to be unwarranted.

65 posted on 01/12/2020 2:42:00 PM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
i don’t like the powers that be think we are so stupid.

They may well not think we're stupid. The fact is though, they know that we are powerless to do anything at all about it. Ultimately though, the fact that the government can not be believed in anything they say is corrosive to our republic.

The "Epstein kill himself" meme is pretty destructive to their authority. I know that many people have finally come to the conclusion that there are 2 types of folks in this country. Them and us. The full force of all law applies to us, but doesn't apply at all to them, even those against murder.

66 posted on 01/12/2020 2:57:10 PM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: zeugma

Interesting that there are no shills arguing that of course it was suicide.

Budget cuts? No marching orders yet?


67 posted on 01/12/2020 5:27:05 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: Tymesup
Interesting that there are no shills arguing that of course it was suicide.

Actually, there are plenty of shills out there claiming exactly that, calling any contrary claims a 'wild right-wing conspiracy theory'. That, despite the fact that the pretty much universal understanding that Epstein was murdered is hardly a even mainly a right-wing phenomena. The claims of these shills follows the 'official' word on the subject. I believe it is this aspect of it that bothers me the most about the entire thing. It is clear that the government decided that his continuing to consume oxygen was simply too dangerous to too many very influential people in government, hollywood, and business. This should really frighten us all, and I'm quite sure it has frightened many who might otherwise publicly call bullshit on the entire thing. This guy ran what a bordello of effectively enslaved underage children for very rich and powerful people who are apparently into such things, yet the woman who apparently 'recruited' these kids is still out there walking around. 'In hiding', at least as far as the public is concerned, but anyone who thinks the U.S. government couldn't locate her in an hour is a fool, at best.

It is apparently U.S. government policy that pedophiles are exempt from our 'justice' system. This is what the meme 'Epstein didn't kill himself' really means.

Everyone knows it, but feels powerless to do anything about it, because what it's actually going to take to bring sanity back to the District of Criminals is that some of these folks are going to have to be hung from lampposts, and I'm not speaking figuratively about this. They believe they are immune. So far they are right.

68 posted on 01/12/2020 7:35:12 PM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: stockpirate

Of course they did...that’s what they do. Anyone who thought Epstein would survive once arrested and jailed knew he’d be gone one way or another. I don’t see that as a problem at all as it saved a lot of money to convict him. Plus he left a trail of evidence and people holding the bag behind him who will certainly ‘talk’.


69 posted on 01/12/2020 8:17:22 PM PST by caww
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To: Kaslin

I’ll take Rich Convicts for $800, Alex.

Name one person throughout history who was among the top 1/10 of 1% by net worth who spent 10 years or more in prison, for an actual crime, not as political retribution.

??_________??

I won’t be hurt or offended if flamed. I haven’t researched this; just an off-the-cuff question.


70 posted on 01/12/2020 8:40:35 PM PST by jonathonandjennifer
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To: Kaslin

My son was at the beach this weekend and sent me this photo from his condo window, “EPSTEIN DIDN’T KILL HIMSELF” written in huge letters on the beach.

https://ibb.co/Jq8DtCY


71 posted on 01/12/2020 9:03:35 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Kaslin

There is no body.

He is at the beach.


72 posted on 01/12/2020 9:13:03 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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