Virginia HB568 To Require Firearms Transported By Car Or Boat To be Locked Container. No Glove Box Exception

Virginia Legislative Information Tracking System ^ | January 6, 2020 | oldvirginian

[oldvirginian]

This time they jumped the gun in the wrong state.
Its been 20 years, or longer, since the dems controlled all three branches. The new group of fascists is more in the mold of the “squad” in DC. They don’t have the patience to go the slow route.
They’ve forgotten that Virginians remember both times the state was occupied by hostile powers. Once during the revolution and once after the civil war.
Northam and his acolytes need to heed the words of Robert Edward Lee when he learned Virginia had voted for secession...”No good can come of this.”

[CottonBall]

“The new group of fascists is more in the mold of the “squad” in DC. They don’t have the patience to go the slow route.”

So the Democrats in Virginia now are more like the Bolsheviks than Mensheviks, wanting it faster and violent if need be. They might be getting the latter, but not coming from within.

We were going to move to Virginia at one time, or North Carolina or Tennessee. Anywhere around the Appalachians. The trend and how they both voted though made us stick to Tennessee. So sad to see those beautiful States invaded with the Yankees. ( I only say that because I can’t even count how many times I have heard that here. People here are still holding a grudge.)

[RetiredArmy]

Are you kidding me with that response?? That the stinking communists of the Dimo party would actually follow the US Constitution as written?? Good grief, how much, how many times, do those punks screw the Constitution and do what they want to do? How many times did Obama bypass the law and do what HE wanted to do?? Hundreds!!! He did what he wanted to do and damn the Constitution. The stinking dimocrats say to hell with the Constitution. They would burn it as worthless if they could get rid of it. One day, when they have both houses of congress and the WH, THEY WILL burn that piece of paper and write their OWN laws and to hell with the public.

[oldvirginian]

Full blown Bolshevik.

I don’t blame you for picking Tennessee. Outside of Memphis and Nashville a very nice place. I had thought about relocating but my mom is slowing down and I don’t want to leave her. Plus I’m a born and bred Virginian and refuse to run from this fight.

Southerners have long memories.
I grew up learning from people who lived with the devastation that “reconstruction” brought. Lots of people here still hold that grudge.

[Svartalfiar]

It shall be an affirmative defense to a violation of clause (i) regarding a handgun, that a person had been issued, at the time of the offense, a valid concealed handgun permit.

Really. So an affirmative defense means that you can still be arrested, jailed, firearm confiscated, you just get an auto-win when you take a day off work for your court case. Why not just say "clause (i) doesn't apply"?

Cause they want to leave an opening for harassment of gun owners in there, even while not technically outlawing them. Like they like to say: you may beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride.

[Svartalfiar]

So he just made every contractor in the state a criminal. It’s illegal to carry a razor unlocked?

For the purpose of this section, a weapon shall be deemed to be hidden from common observation when it is observable but is of such deceptive appearance as to disguise the weapon's true nature.

No, they didn't. If I'm reading this correctly (which I am, based on the actual text of the law), These bans only apply if you're trying to make something disguised for carrying. That last part of the paragraph isn't inclusive, it is the definition of the banning clause at the very beginning. "Hidden from common observation" ONLY INCLUDES items that are deceptively disguised. So you can still carry all these items, as long as they're just hidden under your shirt or in a pocket. You aren't disguising them, you're just concealing them. What you can't do is carry around a sword-cane, or one of those mini-knife necklaces. Or the single-shot phone-pistol.

Disclaimer: I am 99.99% positive my reading is NOT what the Gov and the bill's author intend, but that is definitely the way a plain reading of the text is to be interpreted.

Disclaimer II: I'm sure VA bans several of these and other stuff (balisongs, flamethrowers, whatever else people mentioned above) in other parts of the law. There's no way VA is banning razors but not flamethrowers. I assume they're covered already/elsewhere.

[CottonBall]

I sure hope you Southerners are able to take your State’s back. It’s sad what has become of Virginia and North Carolina with an invasion from the north. Or wherever they come from!

I’m betting this issue is going to get the normally calm and amenable people to react.

[oldvirginian]

I can speak only of Virginia and doing so I believe only separation from the beltway counties can truly save any vestige of the old Virginia. Maybe throw in some of the north eastern coastal counties as well.
Maybe we keep Richmond maybe we don’t.

The calm, amenable and law abiding folks are riled.
How this shakes out is to be determined. Stay tuned.

[CottonBall]

“The calm, amenable and law abiding folks are riled.
How this shakes out is to be determined. Stay tuned.”

I definitely will. And your conservative brothers and sisters in East Tennessee are ready to help, if need be.

[John S Mosby]

So, their “detail” can be “tested”. We are not ruled by these people-— it is only by our CONSENT.

Fight legally. Y’all send $ to NRA-ILA. Then GOA, and every other organization. Shall not be infringed.

And don’t let them get away with “compromise” and “grandfather” ... BULL CRAP. Grandfather what is currently nationally legal as a semi-automatic rifle, and/or semi-auto pistols. No... JUST No.