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California's New Dystopian Laws
You ^ | 01/04/19 | Millennial Millie

Posted on 01/05/2020 12:52:17 PM PST by Enlightened1

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To: Enlightened1
Stiff penalties that can be selectively applied--according to whether or not they like you.

At Stinson Beach, where I used to live, there are signs all over the place saying "No dogs allowed." I have never seen so many dogs in one place.

California people love to pass laws. Once passed, the problem is considered remedied. Never mind if the laws are never enforced; the problem's considered solved anyway..

And the tyrannical particularly love lots of laws--the more, the better. If there are too many to enforce, the tyrants can enforce them selectively, something that the tyrannical particularly love to do.

BTW, Santa Cruz passed a law a few years ago outlawing hate. How's that working out?

41 posted on 01/05/2020 3:01:58 PM PST by Savage Beast (The curse of intelligence is having to watch the morons try everything you know won't work.)
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To: chuckee

Not Cuban.


42 posted on 01/05/2020 3:06:55 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: SoCal Pubbie

So the state is putting the blame off on the water agencies to trickle down on the customers. Same cause and effect end result...


43 posted on 01/05/2020 3:09:05 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Skwor

Exactly...


44 posted on 01/05/2020 3:10:34 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Mark

“I live in Kalifornia, but I saw story about the land sinking that I was not aware of. Farmers taking water from deep down.”

Yep, it is real and can even cause earthquakes. They made them pump water back down to support the land mass when they used to pump oil out of there. The concept has been understood for years and years. But that doesn’t matter. What is important is that they exercise proper OCD “look good” auto hygiene and wash their cars three or more times a week... Take three or more showers a day... Etc... The important things...


45 posted on 01/05/2020 3:19:44 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Enlightened1

1200 new reasons to leave CA and never come back. What are you waiting for?


46 posted on 01/05/2020 3:41:25 PM PST by upchuck (For muslims to freely practice Islam, others must die. ~ h/t Lurkinanloomin)
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To: Enlightened1
"...many of these new rules come with stiff penalties...."


47 posted on 01/05/2020 3:46:38 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: All; Openurmind

In any case water agencies have 6 years to contemplate the issue before any fines start.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/05/31/california-drought-jerry-brown-sets-permanent-water-conservation-rules-with-new-laws/


48 posted on 01/05/2020 3:51:04 PM PST by Drago
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To: Drago

It is the concept and principle, not the time line to compliance.


49 posted on 01/05/2020 3:53:20 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

Yep, but the “concept & principal” have been in place for all political issues in CA for a couple of decades now.

https://soj51.org


50 posted on 01/05/2020 4:21:10 PM PST by Drago
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To: TexasGator

Why do you say this is fake?


51 posted on 01/05/2020 4:22:09 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
When liberals get 67% of the vote, this is the kind of crap that you get.

Governor Moonbeam had the good sense to veto the worst of the craziness but not Gavin Newsom. He'll sign everything!

52 posted on 01/05/2020 4:36:11 PM PST by Drew68
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To: GOPJ

How about NY?


53 posted on 01/05/2020 4:40:37 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

“Why do you say this is fake?”

Because it is NOT true!


54 posted on 01/05/2020 4:54:55 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Enlightened1

“You cannot take a shower and do a load of laundry in the same day.”

LOL!

Are they going to station inspectors in every bathroom?

Put on your thinking cap!


55 posted on 01/05/2020 4:56:58 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Drago

Oh, I know...


56 posted on 01/05/2020 5:09:22 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: TexasGator; Steve Van Doorn

in 2022 the limit is 55 gallons a day, and in 2023 it drops to 50 gallons a day.

An 8 min. shower takes about 17 gallons, and a typical load of laundry can take 40 gallons. You would already be over the limit. Of course, you could take a shorter shower.

Perhaps this issue is that it isn’t individual citizens who will have to pay that $10K fine...that is the water district that fails to enforce it.

So the question is...who will enforce it and how will it be enforced?


57 posted on 01/05/2020 5:28:25 PM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: rlmorel

“So the question is...who will enforce it and how will it be enforced?”

The districts have to submit a plan for approval.


58 posted on 01/05/2020 5:43:23 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Oh gee thanks! We have 3 years to acclimated to this BS.


59 posted on 01/05/2020 5:46:19 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: TexasGator
Good God, the bureaucracy. I went to look up the text of the law, and a San Diego News article about it states:
In a statement issued Thursday, the Association of California Water Agencies shared clarifying information about water-use targets set forth by California Senate Bill 606 (Hertzberg) and Assembly Bill 1668 (Friedman), which was signed into effect in May 2018.

The association says there are no statewide laws that require households to meet specific water-use targets. Targets will be set for entire service areas and will go into effect in 2023. Water agencies are responsible for calculating a water-use standard for their entire service area each year.

Although 55 gallons of water per person per day is one of several elements used to calculate the overall efficiency standard service areas, it wasn’t intended to be the enforceable standard, the association says.

Lastly, they say State Water Control Board fines for agencies that don’t meet the standard are paid for by the agencies, not the ratepayers.

At that very last line "...State Water Control Board fines for agencies that don’t meet the standard are paid for by the agencies, not the ratepayers..." the only thing that popped into my mind was:

60 posted on 01/05/2020 5:57:49 PM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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