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To: tired&retired

“When a child is born, their soul is pure and they can’t survive unless they surrender to someone else,”

I find your use of the word “surrender” to be inaccurate and unhelpful in understanding the situation. To surrender is to make a choice, a decision. The child has no such ability.

He is merely being who he is, a helpless little creature. It is the parent that makes the choice to help him or not.

“They are empty and have no identity except through their parents.”

That implies that at birth we are an empty slate and everything we become is due to the environment and that our genes have nothing to do with our personality and who we become.

“When a person goes through a severe mid life crisis, the same emptiness happens.”

I don’t think that’s a good analogy. From my experience, a midlife crises is the sudden realization that you have been living someone else’s values (usually your parents, or the prevailing culture), and in discovering that there is a certain sense of liberation and also unmooredness that leads to experimentations to define your own values.

“This is why their are no atheists in foxholes.”

You’re equating being in a foxhole with midlife crisis? I would equate it with being near death.

“Just as a child surrenders to their parents, we must surrender to God in order to move to the next level of development and move through the dark night of the soul.”

When you’re at death’s doorstep surrendering is not a choice, it doesn’t matter whether you surrender or not - you will die. You may make the last few moments more palatable, or even joyous, believing in God, or, agnostically, wondering what this next adventure will be like, or, atheistically, simply be relieved that your suffering in this earth is finally over, or perhaps sadness at leaving your loved ones behind.

What comes next nobody knows. Or could it be that believing in something makes it real, literally?

Just my 2 cents. Merry Christmas!


34 posted on 12/24/2019 9:57:44 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: aquila48

“To surrender is to make a choice, a decision. The child has no such ability.”

Intellectual decisions are spiritually worthless. They are like the Pharisees prayers.

Believe what you want, but you do not understand the process. Surrender is not to make a decision. It is to give up your individual will.


36 posted on 12/24/2019 11:55:48 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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