From your first to this last reply, you’ve played hard and loose with the facts.
I’ve pretty much done what I can to call you on it, so yes, I’m done responding point by point when it does seem that you just want to try to wear me out, and waste my time in the process.
So I’ll address just one more piece of willful ignorance on your part and one more claim.
There are a lot of mistakes that people can make in life that may bring about their deaths, and recognizing that truth doesn’t mean you think a person “deserved” to die. It means sometimes a person’s mistake or mistakes can be deadly. I’m sure all that’s not news to you, though once again, you just ignore that truth.
On the hotel worker who went to the room, that argument apparently didn’t sway the jury, who considered that the police were going on the fact that he was seen pointing the rifle out the window, and that he was demonstrating very bad judgment. And by the article alone, we don’t even know what was conveyed to police, if anything, about her going to the room.
Yours is just the sort of “reasoning” that the left used against George Zimmerman, as I said. And the sort of reasoning that had two Democratic presidential candidates recently referring to Michael Brown’s shooting death by a police officer as a “murder.” It’s the same sort of reasoning that also got me to stop watching TV news after a lifetime of watching it up until then, and never expecting that I’d quit watching it.
It’s also the same sort of reasoning that encouraged the media to describe the death of another black man at the hands of police in Louisiana as “an execution,” and to bear false witness that a bystander video showed that he was pinned and couldn’t move at all when he was shot, when instead the video clearly shows him being able to pull back his arm. That same sort of reasoning also encouraged CNN to move the sound of the gun shots in the video, so the man appeared to be just lying there motionless when shot rather than struggling hand-to-hand with one of the officers, who had just noticed his gun.
You’re the only one playing hard and loose with the facts by continuously referring to his pellet gun as a “rifle.”
So my “one more piece of willful ignorance” is stating that I think that you think that if you don’t listen to the cops and are shot and killed, you deserved it. That’s my one more piece of willful ignorance?
Does this now mean that you’re saying that Shaver did not deserve to die for not perfectly following the confusing shouting of the cops? That’s a pretty big step forward, and I’m glad I could help you see this travesty for what it is.
No, of course that’s not what you’re trying to say, but one could hope. Basically you’re saying that my terminology is misleading. You say “justified” and I say you said “deserved.” It’s kind of like calling a pellet gun a rifle, no? Frustrating, right?
Interesting argument on the hotel worker. You don’t really hit it head on so much as deflect by saying it didn’t sway the jury. And then of course, you go right to the defense of the police. “We don’t know what was conveyed to the police about her.” Damn, how much shoe polish do you have on your tongue!?!
Since you went right to the jury on this, do you even know if her actions were conveyed to the jury? You know that the jury was not allowed to view the whole body camera footage, right? The jury doesn’t get all the information. Using their verdict to dismiss the disparity between the hotel worker’s response and the cops’ response is not unlike sticking with a bad call from a ref after the replay shows the ref was wrong. Juries do not always get it right. Think about how many people locked up for crimes they did not commit and are freed due to DNA evidence.
By hiding behind the jury, you don’t even address the disparity between the hotel worker’s response and the police’s response. Does it really seem reasonable that five or six cops armed with AR-15s feared for their lives when the hotel worker simply knocked on his door and spoke to him without incident between the report of him pointing the pellet gun out the window and the police arriving?
I just don’t see any reasonable person agreeing that the police responded appropriately to the level of threat Shaver posed.
The rest of the crap you posted has nothing to do with the murder of Shaver. All of those have a racial component and an actual struggle, only two of which are with the police. Of the two involving the police, only one is specific. Brown. Well, I’ll say this much: if you attack a cop, grab his gun, and attempt to aim it at him, you pretty much deserve to die.