Posted on 12/17/2019 5:27:26 AM PST by Kaslin
Same with Catalonia. More trouble than they're worth.
Mankind is a tribal species and we want to live among our own. That is simply reality.
If you can’t beat ‘em, quit. Look for CA to try to secede if Trump wins in 2020.
I also scratch my head at what is going on with the Scots. You have people who are [supposedly] uber proud of their Scottish heritage & culture. Yet they want EU control and open borders. It simply does not compute.
He says that like its a bad thing....
The Globalists are pushing hard for one world government. Meanwhile, the number of countries increases. People want sovereignty.
The media talks about the EU and globalism like an inevitable force that everyone supports. I think the opposite is true.
The desire to secede stems from one problem that pervades politics anywhere and everywhere; That is that central governments feed their power growth on the backs of all of it’s constituent parts. It’s true if your in Scotland and London grows at your expense, and it’s true if your in South Ossetia and Georgia grows at your expense, and it’s true if you are in Monticello and Indianapolis gets bigger on your backs. It’s not just about freedom and self-determination, although those are very powerful motivators. Sometimes it’s just about being liberated from an exploitative structure of governance.
secessionist drive
No, the problem is the drive of government in its desire to expand its power and authority over people. The secessionist drive is a REaction to that government over-reach.
Theres no reason to secede from a government thats not always in your face and trying to run your day to day life while picking most of your pocket.
Limited government is what precludes secession.
The threat of secession is the only way to hold accountable a small ‘r’ republican form of government.
As Pat Buchanan has pointed out, national borders are cultural barriers. With the diverging cultures in the United States, it is only a matter of time before coastal areas secede and form an EU-like entity, themselves.
Please let that happen!!!
The secessionist action taking place is an outward manifestation of the inherent human desire to live in a community of shared human traits. It is a knife driven through the heart of world globalists and a testament to the driving force of country sovereignty. When one steps back and observes how the world was originally ordered into countries (communities), you see the natural dynamic at work. Trying to turn the world into a ‘one world village’ is an anathema to this most basic of human desires. Call it nationalism if you will, but it is a very real desire to belong to a common community with similar belief systems and human traits.
With the diverging cultures in the United States, it is only a matter of time before coastal areas secede and form an EU-like entity, themselves.
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Good.
Although the outcome is inevitable and more a question of how long it will take. Eventually they will not be happy just having the largest ports, and the isolation of their service and broker-centric economies will correct because they wont have nearly the natural resources as well as many other commodities they had before and wont like the prices and they will attempt to stifle, deal, and block foreign trade and try to get leverage in their trade deals with non-coastal US. When that doesn’t work they will use heavy handed tactics to start ‘annexing’ valuable territories, borders will get closed, skirmishes will happen, and war will break out.
Yeah. My understanding is first, Johnson has to allow a referendum of Scotland.
Second, if Scotland secedes after the UK leaves the EU, they will have to apply for membership as a new member. Spain has promised to veto that application because they don’t want the same thing to happen in Basque and Catalonia.
Their lust for socialism overrides any sense of independence or sovereignty. Stop all forms of foreign aid. Let the various “secessionist” countries attempt to survive on their own.
Scottish
Theres a high concentration of commie mentality in scotland so they see the EU as more like them.
I think Scottish universities were some of the first to embrace the Marxist mentality. The IRA guy, Connolly, who was one of the leaders in the Easter Rising that led to partitioned Ireland went to school there and picked up those commie habits.
From him onward, the IRA was as much about socialism as it was about Irish independence.
Nations are never meant to expand forever. Eventually the ability of the state to maintain itself based on founding principals, when expanded to gigantic proportions, gets corrupted by regionalism, and factionalism and becomes impossible as expediency wins out, leading to general exploitation of one region in order to placate the one with more people or the loudest voices.
Happened to Rome, The Persian Empire, the British Empire, the USSR.
Modern travel and communication only slows the inevitable. The U.S., U.K., and Australia are unique in that we had traditions, language, and freedoms that made our nations so tight that the idea of a breakup was odious. But corruption, regionalism, and creeping tyranny always maintain the momentum to disunion. Canada is about to get hit with this because it enshrined regionalism into their laws, and exploited the west to pay off their largest city, and the French-Canadians. The U.K. is likely next, with the U.S. a bit further off if nothing changes, with Australia safe for a while.
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