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To: gbaker

Varied replies to my query. All appreciated.

Regarding Job: Pretty much why I took leave of the faith. I know the preaching but God torturing a faithful servant out of pride before Satan..

Not for me.


84 posted on 11/17/2019 2:40:07 PM PST by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under fifty.)
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To: coaster123

I’m pretty confident that you’ll find adversity regardless of what you do or believe, despite Joel Osteen’s teaching. Christian hope and faith are in eternity not this present age. Paul writes about our suffering building character and not worth worrying about compared to the promise and Paul certainly knew about suffering.


92 posted on 11/17/2019 3:10:25 PM PST by gbaker
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To: coaster123

coaster123 wrote:

Varied replies to my query. All appreciated.

Regarding Job: Pretty much why I took leave of the faith. I know the preaching but God torturing a faithful servant out of pride before Satan..

Not for me.

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God did not ‘torture’ Job Coaster123. God ‘allowed’ satan to have limited access to Job in order to show what FAITH was. EVERYTHING Job lost in his anguish was restored by our Father in Heaven.

....and now Job lives with the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit forever.

....SMALL price to pay for eternal life in heaven.

If you are looking for reasons not to believe in Jesus risen from the dead...a perfect sacrifice for your sins.....you can do much better.

None of your ‘human reasoning’ will help on the day of Gods righteous judgement Coaster123....

...repent and return to Christ before it is to late. You may die TODAY....call upon Jesus the King today.


110 posted on 11/17/2019 3:51:23 PM PST by ShackledNoMore
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To: coaster123
Regarding Job: Pretty much why I took leave of the faith. I know the preaching but God torturing a faithful servant out of pride before Satan..

I understand. A lot of people take Job that way. It is a difficult book for many believers. I see it as a simple, if a bit extreme test of faith. As I mentioned in my previous post, I believe it is through adversity that our true character and beliefs are shown. Life itself is a very temporary situation in the face of all of eternity. As such, I don't see even Job's travails as weighing too heavy in the balance, if one looks at it in the long run.

The Book of Job is among the oldest in the Bible. Some believe it predates the rest of the Word by a considerable margin. One thing I keep in mind when reading it, is that all the evil done to Job are actually instigated at the hands of Satan. While it is true that God allows it to be done, the actual deeds are not done by Him.

170 posted on 11/18/2019 9:25:37 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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