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To: Red Badger

Not sure how it will all go down, but the Democrats can’t afford to ever let this get to the Senate. There must be some procedure available for the House to impeach the President and then never actually refer those charges to the Senate.

The Senate could have a real investigation and that would expose the Democrats and their ‘Whistleblower’ as a partisan hack planted by the deep state. In the end, all the bad exposure Trump is currently suffering will eventually boomerang back on the Democrats and they will end up in opposition in 2020. Somebody likely reminded Nancy that win or lose in 2020, she’s done as the speaker so appeasing their base is necessary for the parties long term future. That and the distraction this fiasco creates is required to prolong the real investigations long enough so that they are never pursued.


24 posted on 11/14/2019 10:12:49 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: jerod

The Senate could have a real investigation and that would expose the Democrats and their ‘Whistleblower’ as a partisan hack planted by the deep state.


It’s much easier for the Senate to have a full investigation of the coup now without the theater of impeachment trial. That they aren’t doing that tells you they won’t be doing it later, either.


40 posted on 11/14/2019 10:33:20 AM PST by lodi90
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To: jerod
There must be some procedure available for the House to impeach the President and then never actually refer those charges to the Senate.

There is, but the timing does not favor the Democrat strategy.

The procedure would be to vote to impeach in the late stages of the Congressional session (say, October 2020 before the election), hoping that the October Surprise is enough to keep Trump from winning. Then the Democrats would delay the Senate (which would likely go into recess until after Thanksgiving) until it adjourns sine die at the end of the year, claiming a lame duck Senate shouldn't hold a trial on a President who just faced the voters.

By adjourning sine die, all business before the Senate would be deemed completed, and the articles of impeachment will expire with all other pending legislation. If Trump wins reelection in November 2020, the next House would have to start all over in January 2021.

-PJ

66 posted on 11/14/2019 11:36:44 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: jerod

I do not believe we have ever, in American History, been in a destructive scenario quite like this.

Again, thank you left wing Democrats.

We literally have current House members (almost an entire party) intricately involved in every aspect and detail, of a real effort to manufacture purely false “evidence”, by way of encouraging and providing cover for numerous actual illegalities (violations of both regulations and law) within the IC, in conjunction with both “friendly” and “hostile” foreign governments, to remove a Constitutionally elected POTUS, who absolutely loves this country.

And they are doing all of it ultimately with the GOAL of replacing our Constitutional Republic, (and individual liberty derived from it), with a system which erases our borders, and subjugates us, and forces us to pay for global socialist governance!

In a just and honest world, this alone should be enough for a number of quick executions.

This is easily the worst Constitutional crisis in my lifetime, and it involves both large scale “principled treason” and “sedition”, being carried out by multiple socialist members of Congress working together with left wing socialist members of the IC, (who possess the same globalist goals), all secretly working out plans involving foreign governments, and many tens of millions of dollars! In reality, billions.

Generalising here, as many on FR have, I have loved and studied American History throughout my life.

There have been numerous crisis’s, as well as several damaging compromises made with the left, involving our Constitution. The Civil War nearly ended us in different ways.

However, apart from the lead up to the Civil War, we have never had an entire party, using their congressional seats, so dedicated to the destruction of the U.S. Constitution, and overthrow of our government, with the goal of replacing it with a formal centrally controlled socialized state, and fully and illegally utilizing our highest “police” (IC and DOJ) powers, simultaneously working with multiple foreign powers, with secret money and deals being made to carry it out!

On this scale, this really is new crisis territory, on an unbelievably destructive scale.

And the left has again, brought us this real very real crisis.

The no-moral-boundaries, anti-American, socialist Demorats know well the passivist “Republican Rules of Engagement”, and have long used them to advance and execute their left wing overthrow of the Executive Branch, as well as to carry out their subjugation of American society, and global socialist objectives.

Because no one on the right wants conflict, or an interruption to economy (paycheck), and no one wants real civil war, even now, the gravity and depth of this crisis is being hushed to a great degree, and the crisis intentionally deepened and widened by all entities on the left, with the lifeblood of the left wing socialist being their mass media machine.

‘IF’ there even is a way to really fix this, it is absolutely going to need many high level prosecutions, to include current congressman, period. The only way this can happen is with them being removed from office first. The Legislative Branch can do this, but are highly unlikely to do so, because they do not love our Constitution and America, more than they love their own influencial and lucrative positions.

Because the no-moral-boundaries, anti-American, left wing will not stop, and we are not willing to bring justice to them, our Constitution, nation (as we know it), and our liberty are done. Uncorrected, it appears this crisis is the threashold, from which we really will not be able to formally come back from.

If real justice and law are not defended here and now, with prejudice, the president is set, and we as citizens lose our ability to determine our representation, future direction of our lives, and our liberty.

Unfortunately, if Mitch, Lindsey, the Republican Party, and Roberts play games and let this go, we really will be fortunate to have a civil war, where our Constitution and liberty may somehow still exist in a bulkenized country.

Man this makes me upset...

Apologize in advance for mistakes, as this is sent from my phone.


75 posted on 11/14/2019 12:22:39 PM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!))
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