Correct. Who trusts the Federal Bureau of Injustice any more?
Smirking Wray cannot even police his own agents.
And if guys like this reach to the pinnacle of the Federal Bureau of Injustice, I trust them as far as I can throw them.
Posted on 09/15/2019 11:07:21 AM PDT by SkyPilot
Full Title: Trump expected to announce gun control legislation this week. But the substance of it is a mystery
The Trump administration is expected to announce its proposal to curb gun violence as soon as next week. But after the Democrats' fiery debate on gun control, what President Trump will support is far from clear.
The White House has been talking to a trio of lawmakers: Democrats Chris Murphy and Joe Manchin and Republican Pat Toomey. They all support tougher background checks.
After the recent mass shootings in Dayton, Ohio and El Paso, Texas, Mr. Trump called for gun control legislation.
"I'm talking about meaningful, write that word, meaningful, meaningful background checks," Mr. Trump said on August 9.
But Mr. Trump never defined what meaningful means and quickly backed off after talking to the National Rifle Association.
"We already have very serious background checks," Mr. Trump said on August 21.
Since then, Mr. Trump has called mass shootings a mental health issue and criticized what he sees as overzealous Democrats.
"Democrats want to confiscate guns from law-abiding Americans, so they are totally defenseless when somebody walks into their house with a gun," Mr. Trump said.
Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke reinforced the president's argument at this week's debate.
"Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47. We're not going to allow it to be used against fellow Americans anymore," O'Rourke said to loud cheers.
Some of his fellow Democrats now fear O'Rourke's words will be used against their efforts to pass new gun laws.
"I frankly think that that clip will be played for years at Second Amendment rallies with organizations that try to scare people by saying that democrats are coming for your guns," said Democratic Senator Chris Coons of Delaware.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
I have never used my AR-15 against fellow Americans. I have not even used it against any foreigners.
This is true for 99.9% of owners.
According to the lawyers in DC the Constitution doesn't say ANYTHING..! It's just an old outdated document written by a bunch of racist... :(
Correct. Who trusts the Federal Bureau of Injustice any more?
Smirking Wray cannot even police his own agents.
And if guys like this reach to the pinnacle of the Federal Bureau of Injustice, I trust them as far as I can throw them.
YES I AM OK WITH A CONVICTED FELON BEING ABLE TO BUY A GUN
YES I AM OK WITH A CONVICTED FELON BEING ABLE TO BUY A GUN
I wrote it twice for you
A convicted felon could buy a gun until 1968 ..that’s almost 200 years ...and even then could have rights restored federally by applying to the ATF
a GOPe controlled congress removed funding for that appeal in 1994
Nevertheless most states restore gun rights to felons who qualify for state felonies
If you’re off parole or probation then restore rights..
Period.
“Who trusts the Federal Bureau of Injustice any more?”
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Sean Hannity.
On his radio show he is always kissing the asses of “the premier law enforcement agency in the world” as he calls them.
I’m only trying to make a point and will try with more consideration now. Most criminals, when released, will not go on to murder others. A few do. The meanest ones, if emboldened by legal possession of firearms and their vanities, are more likely to be stopped. Most criminals don’t like to train much or train effectively. They don’t consider consequences much. In a few more cases, police would simply be investigating after incidents. A few more criminals will be out of business for good.
Incompetents shouldn’t have weapons, though. With drug possession or influence, for example, extra penalties (more time) should be applied for weapons possession. Drugs obviously have something to do with more recidivism. It appears that we’re seeing many more old criminals now than a couple of generations ago.
“So, you’re ok with a convicted felon being able to buy a gun?”
Convicted felons don’t bother “buying” guns; they steal them. They’re felons. It’s what they do.
Tougher laws on background checks have no bearing on this. As others have said, why not make it illegal to murder other people? That should do it. Oh, wait ...
Ughhh. Hannity. He says things like:
"The great men and women of the FBI...the rank and file of the world's premiere law enforcement agency...."
That porch and steps are actually bracketed into a gallery, of sorts.
Sadly, too many Americans are compliant followers who will do as told.
Trump should do an Oval Office introduction to his proposal and start it with clip of Beto and others, make clear the disconnect by then reading the 2nd amendment and other mendments—educate Americans, then offer his proposal—which hopefully is constitutional.
As someone that has dealt with those folks, on the street, I’ll have to politely disagree. You say tomato. I say tomata. Having a background check makes it harder for them to get guns.
Yes they steal them. But I will tell you this, your hardcore thug isn’t breaking into cars in a parking lot in downtown Atlanta. That is a crackhead doing that. But, it isn’t as easy as folks would think. There’s a reason that a Lorcin, Jennings or HiPoint, that sells for $125 in Georgia, sells for around $800-900 in NYC or Chicago. There’s a reason that 10-9mm rounds sells for $5-10 a round, as opposed to the .17cents a round, normal folks pay for them.
Are there some guys that going into prison and are rehabilitated? Yes there are. But, for most of them, it’s Gladiator School. It’s simple incarceration and nothing more.
Within five years of release, 82 percent of property offenders were arrested for a new crime, compared to 77 percent of drug offenders, 74 percent of public order offenders and 71 percent of violent offenders, the report found.
Take a look at the tv show....Behind Bars: Rookie Year .... you tell me if those guys should be at the gun counter with you.
Others, on this thread, have stated that they’re ok with convicted felons being able to buy guns. Ergo, once they’re out of prison, their rights are restored and they can talk to you at the gun counter at your favorite gun store.
I am not in favor of that.
Convicted felons don’t bother “buying” guns; they steal them....... or do they buy them on the black market from the few shady dealers that there are? The folks breaking into cars are your crackheads and kids that get their hands on them and then sell them on the street.
And then, you’re Convicted Felon, who knows what he’s doing, will not buy a “hot gun”, because they know it has the potential to tie him/her to a previously committed crime perpetrated by someone else.
I’m not an advocate of “tougher background checks”, because no one will ever articulate what that actually means. The current system works. I’m not giving the Left an inch so they’ll take a mile on gun control. The issues with the system are the incompetence, laziness and fear that people have when it comes to inputing data.
What we need is background checks and mental evaluations for those running for Congress, the senate and especially for those running for President.
Yes. If he's safe to release back into society, his rights should be restored to him. Every creature has a right to self defense. If you feel he should have more punishment, he should still be in prison.
If he’s safe to release back into society ........ who determines if a guy that was in prison for committing a felony crime is “safe to release”? Are you going to be the one responsible for making that determination? If so, are you the one taking responsibility for anything he does later? No.
I understand that there are various types of felony crimes. A guy that commits major fraud and rips off a business partner can be convicted of a felony and get 5 years in prison. And his cellmate can commit an armed robbery and do 8 years in prison. Which guy gets to be, safely released back into society?
I understand that there are various types of felony crimes. A guy that commits major fraud and rips off a business partner can be convicted of a felony and get 5 years in prison. And his cellmate can commit an armed robbery and do 8 years in prison. Which guy gets to be, safely released back into society?
If he's done the time and 'paid his debt to society', then he should once again be considered a citizen, with all of his full rights restored. Otherwise, he's effectively less than a citizen, and more like a serf. I'm sorry but I'm simply unwilling to inflict eternal serfdom to someone who may well have done nothing more than commit a paperwork error. The simple reality is that there are far too many things that are considered "felonies" these days for the word to even have meaning anymore.
I understand what you’re saying and agree with some of it. But a guy can “pay his debt to society” after doing 10 years on a murder charge, a voluntary manslaughter charge, an aggravated assault charge, an armed robbery charge, or a home invasion.
That guy, made a decision one day, to inflict harm on someone. He did not act in self defense of himself or in the defense of an innocent 3rd party. Ergo, he gives up his rights.
I see it as one of those tough questions. I see and understand your POV, but just can't agree with it. I'd lean more to it if most "felonies" these days were actually violent crimes. To me it's just a part of living in a free society. No free society is ever going to be completely safe, because there are always ferals out there. Fortunately, in a free society, you also have options by which you can defend yourself. I see it as being a matter of having separate 'classes' of people who aren't full citizens (besides those who are not yet adults of course), as being a greater evil to society at large than the possibility their freedom may cause us some reduced level of personal safety.
I can respect your point of view and I do agree that there is a huge difference between violent crimes and “other felonies”.
I’ve seen and dealt with the victims and the perpetrators of “actual violent crimes”, when responding to calls and then having the opportunity to chase the perpetrators down to put them in jail. Based on my experiences, when they perpetrated their crimes whether it was murder or rape, they put themselves into a separate class of people who aren’t full citizens.
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