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Trump eyes cutting Ukraine aid -officials
Reuters by Yahoo ^ | August 30, 2019

Posted on 08/29/2019 9:13:25 PM PDT by NorseViking

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To: NorseViking
this latest problems in the Ukraine (not the ones under Lenin) was from a group of "religion of peace" groups causing turmoil. They attempted to spread it over to old issues the Ukrainian people have.

Good for Trump recognizing this for what it is. Another Obama/Bush plot.

41 posted on 08/30/2019 9:01:59 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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Now they call and say they are sorry and asking how the job market is.

Yeah, I’ve heard similar through the grapevine, that some older and now less employed Ukrainians now fondly remember the old Soviet economy/job market.

It’s gotta be tough being Ukrainian. Such a strong and beautiful people and a beautiful country, too, but damn, that neighborhood has been one of the historically worst places to be. Ever!

42 posted on 08/30/2019 9:06:58 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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Last year Ukraine had the lowest new car sales since 1967.
Just imagine what car sales hey had in 1960s and why.


43 posted on 08/30/2019 9:10:08 AM PDT by NorseViking
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I suppose the 60s were comparatively better than the 30s.

My heart aches for those born to such things. What a tough place to be.

44 posted on 08/30/2019 9:16:56 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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I wouldn’t want to be a Ukrainian in 1930s but it seems like Khruschev and Brezhnev era has made a better following. That is why Donbas area in full blood Communist and the rest of the country expects Europe to deliver a better quality comminism than the Soviet version with more free stuff at less expense.


45 posted on 08/30/2019 9:22:26 AM PDT by NorseViking
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Interesting. Thanks for that insight! It helps.


46 posted on 08/30/2019 9:35:53 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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Last year Ukraine had the lowest new car sales since 1967. Just imagine what car sales hey had in 1960s and why.

Lol, yes the good old days of the 1967 soviet Moskvitch.


47 posted on 08/30/2019 9:41:40 AM PDT by tlozo
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My dad owned one at the time. Beats any non-luxury European make for the price. An 1969 m-24 with V-8 was a best deal in East Europe. It had poor sales mainly because of little parking space for full size cars and high fuel price in East Germany.


48 posted on 08/30/2019 9:47:50 AM PDT by NorseViking
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1973 Volga Gaz-24 Russian Legendary Car in the USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxj2kuLBN_s&t=319s
Well, now USSR is no more, and I live very very far away. Also, my child hid dream, at least one of them has come true. I own and I drive a 1973 Volga GAZ-24. Funny, but all these 40 + years that I was dreaming of this car not knowing that it was already driving on those beat up Soviet roads counting down to the day we met in the Far-Away-Land...

This was a very prized item in Poland for sure.


49 posted on 08/30/2019 9:52:52 AM PDT by NorseViking
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By the way a 1989 Moskvich a Cadillac-sized decent reliability and cost $3200 in 1990 with v-8. Maybe the post-Soviet economy wasn't that poor but kept down on purpose to curb competition?
50 posted on 08/30/2019 10:37:37 AM PDT by NorseViking
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They are more than half of Ukraine


51 posted on 08/31/2019 11:54:10 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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Do you know half of Ukraine?:) Flipping in their associations it not completely new for them. A decade of bad experience and they would be back licking Russian boots. It is already starting. The main challenge for Russia would be to avoid awarding this behavior too generously.
In my humble opinion the best outcome for everyone would be for Ukraine to become a self-sufficient truly independent country running its foreign policy according to its own interests and not as a proxy for foreign powers in their rivalry against each other. Just picking between sponsors doesn’t change anything.
Too bad their political class doesn’t let it happen. For that reason it would be a perpetually destabilized third world country for a long time.


52 posted on 09/01/2019 12:06:13 AM PDT by NorseViking
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I know folks from west of the dnieper. The mood is anti Russian


53 posted on 09/01/2019 2:42:05 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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That’s because you are American. If you are Russian they would be anti American. It is how it works there.


54 posted on 09/01/2019 3:06:59 AM PDT by NorseViking
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