[CatoRenasci]

Understood. I like some Rhone wines very much, but if you held a tastevin to my head and said you must choose, red Rhones would be a ways down the list. At the top would be Burgundy (though it has become absolutely prohibitively expensive even at village level AOCs) at ages 8+, then equally classified Bordeaux and equivalent California Cabernet/Cabernet blends at ages 15+, then Barolo at age 20+, and then the Rhones - Hermitage at at least 15 and Cote Rotie at 10+.

I recognize mine is not a typical modern palate, but I'm an old fart and was trained by guys who were old when I was young. Most of the were graduates of Conegliano around the beginning of the 20th century, and all were active as winemakers in California before Prohibition.

[Romulus]

I’d be glad to drink any of those with you, but hope you’d be buying! ;-)

I recently inherited a 1960 vintage port from from my late father-in-law. It has minimal ullage (barely below the bottom of the neck), so I have great hope of its giving pleasure when we open it at Thanksgiving this year. Picked up some tawnies and LBVs in case it’s a bust.