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To: CatoRenasci

Yeah, plonk. Y’see, making our peace with plonk is precisely what I’m advocating.

Let’s face it: we can all remember that heavenly bottle of 1970 La Mission Haut Brion, but who can afford to drink like that every day? For years my every day dinnertime drink was Gallo cabernet sauvignon. At $4.99 for 1.5L, I didn’t expect much, and didn’t get much. But I got my money’s worth: an honest varietal that was good enough for every day meals at home when no company was coming. “Good enough” is the market space nobody wants, but it’s the space that needs to be served if wine’s to be incorporated in the affordable family diet as it is in France and Italy.

I’ve been to Napa several times, and tasted my way up and down and all over, but that is a tiny niche: bottles for the seriously rich, the restaurant trade, and special occasions, much of it coming from vanity winemakers, hobbyists sitting on massive Hollywood or Silicon Valley fortunes. They are not in business to meet my needs. Even $10 bottles are unaffordable for every day family drinking in most households. Nowadays I drink box wine, without apologies. If I could afford it, I’d upgrade to an Aussie screw-cap brand. I’m not out to prove anything, and marketing aimed at the ignorant and prestige-hungry doesn’t work on me.

When I was a student in Italy many years ago, we bought wine in bulk — so cheap that you could (and we did) throw it around the room at toga parties. It was literally cheaper than bottled water. It wasn’t prize-winning stuff, but still managed to enhance many a meal. Government fiscal greed and anti-alcohol prudery make “throwing wine” impossible in America, but widespread access to decent plonk would be a service to mankind.


40 posted on 08/21/2019 1:45:55 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus; SamAdams76
Well, I suppose that depends on what you mean by making peace with plonk, and what you're looking for in an everyday glass of wine with dinner.

Sensitivity to differences in wines differs widely. Partly, I think it's a matter of genetics, partly a matter of training and experience. If you have no reference points it's hard to make comparisons. I'm perfectly prepared to accept that he can't tell a $40 wine from a $6 wine, just as I accept that some people have perfect pitch and others can't tell one tune from another. General Grant was (in)famous for having said (listening to a band) the tunes all sounded like Yankee Doodle to him. I do think that most people, who want to, can improve their palates and can learn to differentiate among wines on a quality basis, if not a price basis - I'd be the first to agree that while price is a general guide to quality, it's not a reliable guide, and there is a whole lot of wine sold for premium prices that is probably worse than many sound commercial wines (like your Gallo Cabernet - a poor replacement for the blend that was Hearty Burgundy back in the day) costing a half as much or less.

I have an eight word theory of wine tasting:

Pull Lots of Corks

Remember What You Taste

The last four words are important to figuring out what you like and being able to replicate it other than by looking at the label. Everyone has some sort of taste memory, but few people make a point of training it. (just as few people train their memories much at all, these days). Your taste memory includes '70 La Mission, which is a good wine in a very fine year - an excellent benchmark. My benchmarks are different for Cabernet, though several 1970 Bordeaux and California Cabs are among them. And, I'm lucky enough to have tasted many of these wines through their life cycles.

It has become harder to find daily drinkers - my base point is around $15 minimum these days, though I can sometimes get a case of something I like for ~$10-12. For special occasions, for dinner parties, and even for a 'special' dinner at home, I go to my cellar, where I have wines I bought young, and have kept until maturity (or I lose my patience). I rarely drink Cabernet under the age of 10, prefer my Zin between 8-15, and other wines at varying ages. YMMV.

57 posted on 08/21/2019 6:37:23 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Islam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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