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To: central_va

lol, Here is more info that gives exactly the opposite findings. If you need help understanding the data let me know and I will be glad to help you.

https://mises.org/library/yes-minimum-wages-still-increase-unemployment

https://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/economics/item/23791-more-proof-raising-the-minimum-wage-increases-unemployment

https://www.epionline.org/oped/o76/

https://www.americanactionforum.org/research/how-minimum-wage-increased-unemployment-and-reduced-job-creation-in-2013/

So, sorry if I don’t buy what you are selling or believe your version of what the truth is. For every article you can find saying that raising the minimum wage does not cause unemployment, I can find another or maybe even two that say the opposite.

You want to focus on Walmart and other mega companies, yet you conveniently forget...
There are almost 21.5 million (90%) small businesses in the United States.
Small businesses are responsible for 39 percent of GNP.
Small businesses are responsible for 52 percent of the all U.S. sales and contribute about 21 percent of all manufactured U.S. exports.
Small businesses contribute 44 percent of all sales in the country.
Small businesses employ 54.4 million people, about 57.3 percent of the private workforce.

https://www.ntia.doc.gov/legacy/opadhome/mtdpweb/sbfacts.htm

Small business cannot continue to raise wages so you can feel good about yourself because you think that this makes things “fair”. Besides, I have yet to see one of you minimum wage advocates answer these questions:

Who owns the job, the company or the worker?

So, because I own a business, I can no longer negotiate what I am willing to pay someone to perform a job for me?

Why do you and your ilk get to decide what a job is worth? The company owns the equipment and infrastructure present to make the job possible. They spend the money on it, maintain it, and assume all the risk, but according to you they should have no say in what they are willing to pay to do this work using THEIR infrastructure?

At any given time, there are “X” number of jobs in the economy. Wages have been falling because we have been allowing a non-stop flow of unskilled labor to just walk across the border who will work for under the table cash. This means they will work for less money. This has had a downward push on wages. You know, supply and demand? I will explain it slower if you need help. So, your solution is to create some made up value for ALL labor, out of thin air based on what you think “need” is or should be? And you think this will solve the problem?

I propose freedom for owners to negotiate and for workers to work for the wage they would like. Even if it is lower than some others. This is called FREEDOM. So before you accuse others of being socialist, you many want to examine your own tendencies when it comes to thinking you or others are entitled to someone else’s earnings.

And , by the way, I was condescending and insulting with this post because that is how you posted to me and others previously.


132 posted on 08/22/2019 12:18:13 PM PDT by BizBroker ("You may ignore reality, but you may not ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: BizBroker

Oh my, but the pearl clutching! You asked, “So, because I own a business, I can no longer negotiate what I am willing to pay someone to perform a job for me?”

Who is telling you what you can pay your employees? If you want to pay one of them $30,000 per year, instead of $40,000, then that is between the two of you. BUT, you can not pay them less than minimum wage, whatever that is, or the rest of us have to chip in money to pay for food stamps, housing vouchers, etc.

Look at it this way. I can not priss around town topless. If I do, I will get arrested. OH NO! They are telling me what I can and can not wear!!! No they aren’t. They are simply setting forth a minimum amount of clothing.

But I suspect you already know that. You just want to pretend to argue so you will not have to face up to the fact that you have no argument. Because. Denial.


137 posted on 08/22/2019 12:36:01 PM PDT by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts.)
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To: BizBroker

Not one chart or raw data in any of those links. I give you facts and data and you give back BS.


140 posted on 08/22/2019 12:48:00 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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