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To: Mrs. Don-o; ealgeone
Please note that wearing an object to save you from hellfire, is not Catholic doctrine.

So this thing is lying, right?

Or rather, is this thing lying?

That would be a yes or no question.

536 posted on 07/30/2019 8:05:52 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom
Ping me if you get an answer.

Meanwhile the popcorn is cooking.

538 posted on 07/30/2019 8:24:55 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom
I am glad you accept Yes or No questions.

Yes the motto is true, keeping in mind the conditions for being in a state of sanctifying grace.

Yes the motto is true, but "No," it would not be understood correctly by somebody who does not understand sanctifying grace, or the means of access to / increase of grace.


This answer is similar, I think,to what one might give for a parallel question:

(Acts 2:21) "Everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved."

Vs.

(Matthew 7:21) "Not everyone who says to me, 'LORD, LORD' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."

If #2 is true, does that mean #1 is false?

Yes or No answer, please.

556 posted on 07/30/2019 11:25:25 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("...Created in Christ Jesus for the good works that God has prepared in advance..." (Eph. 2:10)
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To: metmom
To specify those conditions:

Let's say the favor sought, is to enter into Heaven without any temporal punishments due to sin.

The conditions would be:

If you wished to gain this favor, the things necessary are the spiritual purification you ask God to give you through prayer and the sacraments, and detachment from sin. The scapular would be the sign of this, not the cause of it.

A person expecting to enter Heaven by wearing a scapular (without attachment to God and detachment from sin) would be practicing futility. In fact, a person receiving sacramental Confession and Sacramental Communion ---without sincere detachment from sin and attachment to God--- would be practicing not just futility but sacrilege.

This is comparable to a person expecting to enter Heaven by saying "The Sinner's Prayer" or some such "Lord, Lord" formula of words, but without attachment to God and detachment from sin.

557 posted on 07/30/2019 11:40:53 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("...Created in Christ Jesus for the good works that God has prepared in advance..." (Eph. 2:10)
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