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To: MHGinTN

“But No Where in The Word of God are the Body of Christ told to pray to dead folks regardless of where they are. “
According to my Bible (RSV-CE) In Hebrews 12:22-24 St. Paul encourages us to approach, not only Christ, but the angels and saints. In Revelation 5:8 we see those saints offering up those prayers before God’s throne.


1,126 posted on 08/04/2019 9:37:52 AM PDT by baldisbeautiful ("Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them", George Orwell)
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To: baldisbeautiful
I will post the passage that I just read (Hebrews 12:18-24). Can you show where you are to pray to the dead who are alive in Heaven. You are wresting from the passage an assertion not written there.

Hebrews 12:18 For you have not come to what may be touched, a blazing fire and darkness and gloom and a tempest 19 and the sound of a trumpet and a voice whose words made the hearers beg that no further messages be spoken to them. 20 For they could not endure the order that was given, “If even a beast touches the mountain, it shall be stoned.” 21 Indeed, so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, “I tremble with fear.” 22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

25 See that you do not refuse him who is speaking. For if they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, much less will we escape if we reject him who warns from heaven. 26 At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “Yet once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens.” 27 This phrase, “Yet once more,” indicates the removal of things that are shaken—that is, things that have been made—in order that the things that cannot be shaken may remain. 28 Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe, 29 for our God is a consuming fire.

When you read the passage in the context the writerdesigned, you will see your error, hopefully.

1,129 posted on 08/04/2019 10:52:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: baldisbeautiful
And Revelation 5:8When He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp, and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9And they sang a new song:

Show me where these bowls of the prayers become petitions, as in praying to these holding the bowls.

1,130 posted on 08/04/2019 10:55:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: baldisbeautiful; MHGinTN
“But No Where in The Word of God are the Body of Christ told to pray to dead folks regardless of where they are. “ According to my Bible (RSV-CE) In Hebrews 12:22-24 St. Paul encourages us to approach, not only Christ, but the angels and saints. In Revelation 5:8 we see those saints offering up those prayers before God’s throne.

Hebrews 12 says no such thing and Revelation 5 does not indicate those prayers are prayers of others offered to them to offer to God.

1,136 posted on 08/04/2019 12:51:36 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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