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Why Does The Shroud of Turin Still Exist?
Townhall.com ^ | July 28, 2019 | Myrah Kahn Adams

Posted on 07/28/2019 6:02:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Mom MD
yes it does. it says the person who dies wearing it will not suffer hell.

It does indeed say the person who dies wearing it will not suffer hellfire.

However, it does not say wearing the scapular is what saves. That is just a simple literary fact.

881 posted on 07/31/2019 2:47:21 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: papertyger

your logic skills are a bit lacking. But it is very much a Roman trait to deny plain language. It does not say a person wearing this that believes x... it says a person wearing this. If the only condition is wearing the scapular then wearing the scapular is what saves. Period.


882 posted on 07/31/2019 2:50:29 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

It doesn’t have to say it. The only people making it an unqualified proclamation are those who believe in magic, and those who don’t believe it, anyway.

Neither of whom are particularly open to dialogue.


883 posted on 07/31/2019 3:02:16 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: Mom MD

It doesn’t have to say it. The only people making it an unqualified proclamation are those who believe in magic, and those who don’t believe it, anyway.

Neither of whom are particularly open to dialogue.


884 posted on 07/31/2019 3:02:24 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: Mom MD

It doesn’t have to say it. The only people making it an unqualified proclamation are those who believe in magic, and those who don’t believe it, anyway.

Neither of whom are particularly open to dialogue.


885 posted on 07/31/2019 3:02:30 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: papertyger

Seriously, parchmentkitten, you a Catholic accusing someone of believing in magic? Wow, the depths of darkness within is astonishing to behold!~


886 posted on 07/31/2019 3:18:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: papertyger

saying it three times doesn’t make you any less wrong. :)


887 posted on 07/31/2019 3:18:46 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

What part are you objecting to?


888 posted on 07/31/2019 3:28:27 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: MHGinTN
Wow, the depths of darkness within is astonishing to behold!~

I agree.

889 posted on 07/31/2019 3:31:04 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: papertyger
However, it does not say wearing the scapular is what saves. That is just a simple literary fact.

You can keep spinning it anyway you want...but the apparition disagrees with you.

“This shall be a privilege for you and all Carmelites, that anyone dying in this habit shall not suffer eternal fire.”

The Blessed Virgin assigned certain conditions which must be fulfilled:

1.Wear the Brown Scapular continuously.

2.Observe chastity according to one’s state in life (married/single).

3.Recite daily the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin OR Observe the fasts of the Church together with abstaining from meat on Wednesdays and Saturdays OR With permission of a priest, say five decades of Our Lady’s Most Holy Rosary OR With permission of a priest, substitute some other good work.

890 posted on 07/31/2019 4:10:02 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MHGinTN
Seriously, parchmentkitten, you a Catholic accusing someone of believing in magic? Wow, the depths of darkness within is astonishing to behold!

I couldn't believe that either.

891 posted on 07/31/2019 4:11:03 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

But on the scapular there is only one condition - that it be worn at the time of death. More telling even in your expanded conditions there’s no mention of Jesus. Only Mary. Unfortunately for those that but into this, neither the piece of cloth or Mary can do anything to save you.


892 posted on 07/31/2019 5:19:08 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ealgeone
together with abstaining from meat on Wednesdays and Saturdays

When I was a catholic, we had to abstain from meat on Fridays. I wonder if this has changed? It’s been so long since I was a catholic, I don’t even know if they still abstain at all.
Me, on the other hand, I was a very rebellious catholic. I ate meat on Fridays. I didn’t care what they said. It’s just another false superstition. I am glad I was a rebellious catholic, because it motivated me to start looking for something different. It’s a beautiful thing. Everyone should try it. 👍 By the way, I am no longer involved in necromancy. It’s evil. 😁

893 posted on 07/31/2019 5:31:46 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: papertyger; Mom MD

The literary sense is that it makes a statement.

And that statement says that the scapular saves people from eternal fire if they die wearing it.


894 posted on 07/31/2019 6:24:03 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Mark17

We did the meatless meals on Fridays as well.

But that was OK with me because one my favorite foods is real, homemade potato pancakes (not re-fried leftover mashed potatoes) and we had those every Friday night for dinner.

With sour cream, too.

YUM!!!!!!!


895 posted on 07/31/2019 6:27:48 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom; Mark17
The cafeteria at work always served fish on Friday as an option.

I never really understood the regulation that Rome imposed upon its members.

It definetely is a rules based denomination.

896 posted on 07/31/2019 6:50:01 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom

When I make potatoe pancakes, I clean and peel the red potatoes, then put them in my food processor to thoroughly shed them, before mixing them into the Bisquick batter.


897 posted on 07/31/2019 7:03:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Shed potatoes? LOL ... shred them


898 posted on 07/31/2019 7:04:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Nope.

Just clean them and grate them using one of those old fashioned, take the skin off your fingertips graters.

Drain as much of the liquid off as possible.

Then mix in an egg or two, enough salt to taste good, and a little flour, a 1/4 c or so.

Then heat the oil in a pan and when it sizzles when you drop a couple drops of pancake batter on it, then put the batter on and fry them up.

Be careful, though, because the grease will spatter from the liquid and you couple get away with no grease spatter burns if you wear long sleeves, but your hands will still get it.

It’s all part of the *experience*.

Serve with sour cream, and they are great with hot tea.


899 posted on 07/31/2019 7:13:57 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: MHGinTN
The side that's showing is the side you use.

You don't want little shreds. You want a pile of mush that looks like applesauce.

900 posted on 07/31/2019 7:16:12 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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