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To: Skooz

Whatever.

Point being Stalin and Mao murdered more. Either call them all The (pick name ) Holocaust or none.

Back in the 80s 90s I frequented a large gun store. They kept an Armenian speaking salesman on staff to serve the Armenian clientele, who were many. The Survivors of the Armenian murders by the Turks invented ‘Never Again’.


40 posted on 07/07/2019 5:39:02 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

I get your point.

All you mention were certainly “holocausts,” but over the years “the Holocaust” has, for better or worse, come to refer to what the Nazis perpetrated before and during WW2.

BTW, for my historiography class in college, I wrote my main paper on the Armenian genocide. It was three months of intense research of primary and secondary sources. When I finally came up for air and composed the paper it took a long while before I could really digest it all. It was brutal.

And yet, to this day, the Turks deny it happened.


48 posted on 07/07/2019 5:53:14 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Vaquero

There is no need to call all acts of atrocity that kill millions of people the same name.

Most of the people that died under Stalin starved and most emerged from the Gulags alive. The Holocaust was an attempt to brutally eliminate an entire group of people with torture and experimentation, systematically. It stands at the pinnacle of man’s inhumanity to man in scope & breadth.

Referring to the other instances as holocausts is correct but the Death Camps were a whole ‘nother level. Right now in Africa smaller scale holocausts are occurring. Brutal, animalistic though they are, abhorent, repellent, they too did not have gas ovens, picking through human remain for gold teeth, lampshades of skin, human bodies stacked like cord wood, or Mengele and his tortures...

I find it odd to want to argue over which unspeakable crime against humanity is worse and to want to claim parity== rather than mourning and attempting to learn from each but if parse we must, those are my thoughts.

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/


59 posted on 07/07/2019 6:14:30 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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